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• 2004.04.13 | Анатолій

  Немає чудес, є різні рівні знань! (-)

• 2004.04.13 | Горпина Пінчук

  І все таки

  чи були спроби повторити плащаницю. Якщо це так просто, шляхом простих хімічних реакцій. Як кажуть, одна з особливість науки - можливість відтворення дій. Якщо щось пізнане, то його частіш за все можна відтворити. І реакції у тім числі.
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  • 2004.04.13 | Анатолій

    Моя власна думка!

    Коли людина має високий рівень духовності, то енергетикою свого тіла вона може випалити своє зображення на полотні. Ця високого рівня духовності людина також може матеріалізувати фізичні об"єкти тощо.
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• 2004.04.13 | Augusto

  Xto-xto, xiba ne jasno?

  Ce - kin' v pal'to.
  Vzagali na plashchanyci - grupove foto i po n'omu ranishe graly v gru "Znajdy Val'do" (starovynna orijs'ka nazva - "Where is Waldo?").
  A pidstupni judo-musul'mane vygadaly, shcho ce - fotografija (vona zh - svitlyna, shcho v svoju chergu kal'ka z nimec'kogo "lichtbildung").
  Zazombovani judo-xrystyjane, zazombovani judo-xrystyjane, zazombovani judo-xrystyjane (povtorjuvaty do povnogo zadovolennja).
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  • 2004.04.14 | Анатолій

    Августо може лити тільки багно, і вже нічого більше...(-)

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    • 2004.04.14 | Augusto

      A shcho ne tak? Ce ne moja vyna, shcho ja anglijs'koju chytaju.

      Scientists find another face on reverse side of Turin Shroud
      
      By Charles Arthur, Technology Editor
      
      Computer image processing has discovered the ghostly image of a man on
      the Turin Shroud, but on its reverse side, rather than on the top of
      the famous relic.
      
      The image matches that of the face on the front side of the shroud,
      with faint details of a nose, eyes, hair, beard and moustache. The discovery is published today in a scientific paper by two Italian
      scientists. The shroud is among the most controversial Christian relics. Supporters say the handwoven cloth is the burial shroud of
      Jesus, and that the "image" visible on its front - the smudged outline
      of a man's body - is proof of the Resurrection.
      
      But scientists who have studied the image have repeatedly said it is a
      convincing and clever fake, probably from medieval times, "no miracles
      are necessary to explain the [front] image" and it "can be explained
      by reference to highly probable, well-known chemical reactions".
      
      But that assertion will meet a renewed challenge with the new
      research, in the peer-reviewed Journal of Optics A: Pure and Applied
      Optics. The "underside" of the shroud has rarely been seen. It is
      hidden under a piece of cloth that was sewn on by nuns in 1534 after a
      fire that blackened parts of the huge cloth, which measures 14ft3in by
      3ft7in (4m by 1m).
      
      The reverse side of the shroud was scrutinised in detail for the first
      time only in 2002, when the extra cloth was unstitched during
      restoration. The latest research builds on photographs taken then
      which were published in a book by one of the church's keepers of the
      shroud.
      "I was caught by the perception of a faint image on the back surface
      of the shroud," says Giulio Fanti, professor of mechanical and thermic
      measurements at Padua University, who is one of the authors of the
      latest paper. "I thought that perhaps there was much more that wasn't
      visible to the naked eye," he said.
      
      Though nothing stood out to the naked eye, Professor Fanti and a
      colleague, Roberto Manniolo, used sophisticated image-processing
      techniques that can extract pictures from background "noise".
      
      Using them, they discovered the image of a face on the back side of
      the shroud, lying directly behind the familiar front image, which
      seems to show a bearded man with the marks of crucifixion.
      
      "Though the image is very faint, features such as nose, eyes, hair,
      beard and moustaches are clearly visible," Professor Fanto says.
      "There are some slight differences with the known face. For example,
      the nose on the reverse side shows the same extension of both
      nostrils, unlike the front side, in which the right nostril is less
      evident."
      But the enhancement procedure did not uncover an image of the body to
      match that on the front. "If it does exist, it is masked by the noise
      of the digital image itself," the scientist adds. "But we found what
      is probably the image of the hands."
      
      The scientific paper is careful not to make any claims about how the
      image may have got there. "We were very insistent that there should be
      no religious speculation," a spokesman for the Institute of Physics
      says. "It is a paper that describes what they did and found."
      
      The discovery of the second face may seem to strengthen claims that
      the shroud is in fact a fake: any paint or liquid used by forgers to
      make a print on the cloth would have soaked through. But Professor
      Fanti noted that on both sides the facial image is "superficial",
      involving only the outermost linen fibres.
      
      "When a cross-section of the fabric is made, one extremely superficial
      image appears above and one below, but there is nothing in the middle.
      It is extremely difficult to make a fake with these features."
      He says this "double superficiality" could answer how the image got on
      to the cloth. In the paper, he mentions a corona discharge, which can
      occur if the corpse is in an electric field and the atmosphere is
      ionised. That could happen for a body stored in a cave with quartz
      rocks prone to earthquakes, because that could release the radioactive
      gas radon.
      
      In 1988, the Vatican approved carbon-dating tests. Three reputable
      laboratories in Oxford, Zurich and Tucson, Arizona, concluded that the
      Shroud was made between 1260 to 1390.
      
      Ray Rogers, one of the scientists, has said: "The characteristics of
      the image can be explained by reference to highly probable, well-known
      chemical reactions. No miracles are necessary to explain the image."
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      • 2004.04.14 | Анатолій

        Ви, Августо, читаєте й на ідиш, але свиничати не обов"язково!(-)

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        • 2004.04.14 | Георгій

          Спробуйте зрозуміти гумор співбесідника

          Пане Анатолію, чому Вас завжди так "заводять" репліки п. Августо? Він має почуття гумору, і цей його гумор іноді гострий, уїдливий. Але ж він дуже ерудована людина і часто постачає на наш форум дуже цікаву і правдиву, підтверджену документами інформацію. Помиріться з ним, прошу Вас! --ГП

      • 2004.04.14 | Георгій

        Дякую за інфу!

        Дійсно цікаво. Дякую, пане Августо.