>СВР утверждает, что за терактами в Вашингтоне и Нью-Йорке стоит организация Усамы бен Ладена, Исламского движения Узбекистана и правительство талибов.
Дивно, що москалі ще УНА-УНСо не згадали...
А от що кажуть мериканці (CNN)
The United States is also asking Russia for help in dealing with Afghanistan. Armitage will travel to Moscow next week to hold a special meeting of the U.S.-Russia working group on Afghanistan.
Moscow is also concerned about terrorist training in Afghanistan that is spilling over into Russia's neighbors in Central Asia.
Russia, as part of the Soviet Union, invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and fought alongside the Marxist government in a nine-year war against Afghan mudjahadin. Knowledge of the country gained in that fight could be very useful in assisting the United States with a retaliatory attack.
Powell said that in discussions with Russian officials, Moscow appeared ready to have "active discussions."
"I am sure they will be helpful on many things," Powell said. "They have a great deal of experience in Afghanistan and we will draw on all of that experience."
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> А от що кажуть мериканці (CNN)
А чому ви американців звете мериканцями? Тут хтось каже "гамериканці". Я так гадаю, що він живе у Гукраїні.
2001.09.15 | Сергій Кабуд
почитав я про Бен ладена. Всьо ясно. Немаю питань ні до кого. Винищити це займе десятиріччя.
осамабинладен
Who is Osama Bin Laden?
He is a Saudi financier who recruited and led
Arab volunteers for the 'jihad'
against the Soviet invaders in Afghanistan. Since
that war, he has sent his
"Arab Afghans" to fight in Bosnia, Chechnya,
Kashmir and other conflicts
involving Muslims. But he also declared a 'jihad'
against the United States,
declaring it the duty of all Muslims to kill
American soldiers and civilians.
Bin Laden, of course, has no religous standing,
and his religious
rationalization of terrorism is fiercely rejected
by mainstream Islam. The
fugitive Saudi has been accused of authoring a
number of attacks on
Americans, most notably the 1998 embassy bombings
in east Africa. He's also a
prime suspect in the attack on the U.S.S. Cole.
What does Bin Laden Want?
Bin Laden believes Muslim countries should be
ruled according to Islamic
sharia law, thus pitting him against the
pro-Western regimes all over the
Middle East. U.S. support for these regimes and
for Israel, as well as the
presence of "infidel" American forces in Saudi
Arabia are the reasons he
offers for his 'jihad' against the U.S. Bin Laden
wants to drive the U.S. out
of Arab lands, overthrow the governments of Egypt
and Saudi Arabia, and
destroy Israel.
Who are Bin Laden's operatives and how does his
network function?
Bin Laden's own organization, Al Qaida, is based
primarily on Arab volunteers
who fought in Afghanistan and were either
unwilling or unable to return home.
They maintained training camps in Afghanistan,
the Sudan, Yemen and
elsewhere, where they trained fighters for
Islamist armies as far afield as
Chechnya and western China. Many of these
operatives were also trained and
deployed to create the infrastructure for and
execute terrorist actions
against targets associated with the U.S. all over
the world.
The Afghan 'jihad' also established links between
volunteers from Islamist
opposition groups in countries ranging from
Algeria to South Africa and the
Philippines, and Bin Laden has moved — together
with key leaders of Egypt's
influential Islamist movement — to establish
himself at the center of a kind
of Islamist International. Their goal has been to
link organizations spawned
by local grievances all around the world into a
global 'jihad' against the
U.S. and to foster cooperation among these
groups.
Security experts believe Bin Laden's networks are
not tightly or vertically
linked. Instead, any number of smaller cells and
loosely affiliated
organizations receive support from and carry out
operations on behalf of the
Saudi financier and his immediate lieutenants.
Where are they based?
Bin Laden remains holed up in Afghanistan, where
he enjoys the protection of
its ruling Taliban militia. But structures linked
with Bin Laden have been
identified in Yemen, Bosnia, the Philippines,
even New Jersey — pockets of
support have been unearthed in most places where
foreign veterans of the
Afghan war are to be found. Earlier this year, a
New York court convicted a
former Egyptian army major of doing intelligence
work for Bin Laden's
networks — Ali Mohammed had also been a
sergeant in the U.S. Army. And the
Algerians arrested last December for allegedly
smuggling explosives into the
U.S. are suspected of working with Bin Laden,
even though they had been
linked with Algeria's Islamic Salvation Front —
a group that has not
traditionally targeted the U.S. That suggests a
growing tendency towards
cooperation between distinct local groups, which
considerably widens the base
of potential threats against the U.S.
How do Bin Laden's networks differ from other
terrorist groupings in the
Middle East?
Before the Bin Laden group emerged, terrorist
organizations in the Mideast
depended on states to sponsor their activities.
The notorious PLO dissident
Abu Nidal, for example, might carry out attacks
on behalf of Syria, Libya or
other sponsors, as would the notorious Venezuelan
"Carlos the Jackal,"
currently in prison in France. Similarly, the
Lebanese Hezbollah militia has
depended on backing from Iran and a nod and a
wink from Syria. Hezbollah, of
course, has primarily waged a guerrilla war
against Israel in southern
Lebanon, but it has also been a suspect in
terrorist attacks both inside
Lebanon and abroad. But unlike Bin Laden's group
— and the equally
cosmopolitan Abu Nidal — Hezbollah tends to
remain focus on home ground, and
on lending its support and expertise to
Palestinian militants in the West
Bank and Gaza.
The most notorious Palestinian terrorist group of
the past decade has been
Hamas, which has killed scores of Israeli
civilians in suicide bombing
attacks inside Israel. Based in the West Bank and
Gaza, Hamas opposes Yasser
Arafat and the peace process, but it is not known
to have mounted attacks
outside of Israel and the Palestinian
territories. Thus far, Israeli security
officials believe that despite their animosity to
the Jewish State, Osama Bin
Laden's forces have not for the most part
directly targeted Israel.
і закінчиться ядерною війною, бо Пакистан має ядерну зброю...
Штатівські літаки не можуть без дозволу Пакистану пролетівти до Афгану. А Пакистан це єдина країна яка визнає талібів і має сильну талібську коаліцію в парламенті, та підтримку населення талібам.
Якщо нога американського солдата ступить на Пакистанську землю, там може початися громадянська війна, з усіма ядерними наслідками.
2001.09.15 | Ihor
А от що в канадській пресі було сьогодні на цю тему
In an apparent reference to deadly 1999 bombings in Russia blamed on Chechen separatists, the NATO statement said that "the Allies and Russia have suffered from terrorist attacks against civilians."
However, the U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Alexander Vershbow, made clear yesterday that his government will not forget its views of Russian actions in Chechnya. According to Agence France-Presse, he conceded that Chechen rebels had received support from outside Muslim terrorist groups, but he insisted that "the Russian approach to solving that conflict is leading them down the wrong path."
Тобто вони повністю відмежовуються від тих методів розвязання проблем які використовує Росія.
Відповіді
2001.09.14 | Shooter
Москва - ет канєшна
>СВР утверждает, что за терактами в Вашингтоне и Нью-Йорке стоит организация Усамы бен Ладена, Исламского движения Узбекистана и правительство талибов.Дивно, що москалі ще УНА-УНСо не згадали...
А от що кажуть мериканці (CNN)
The United States is also asking Russia for help in dealing with Afghanistan. Armitage will travel to Moscow next week to hold a special meeting of the U.S.-Russia working group on Afghanistan.
Moscow is also concerned about terrorist training in Afghanistan that is spilling over into Russia's neighbors in Central Asia.
Russia, as part of the Soviet Union, invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and fought alongside the Marxist government in a nine-year war against Afghan mudjahadin. Knowledge of the country gained in that fight could be very useful in assisting the United States with a retaliatory attack.
Powell said that in discussions with Russian officials, Moscow appeared ready to have "active discussions."
"I am sure they will be helpful on many things," Powell said. "They have a great deal of experience in Afghanistan and we will draw on all of that experience."
2001.09.15 | Andrij
Re: Москва - ет канєшна
Shooter писав(ла):> А от що кажуть мериканці (CNN)
А чому ви американців звете мериканцями? Тут хтось каже "гамериканці". Я так гадаю, що він живе у Гукраїні.
2001.09.15 | Сергій Кабуд
почитав я про Бен ладена. Всьо ясно. Немаю питань ні до кого. Винищити це займе десятиріччя.
осамабинладен
Who is Osama Bin Laden?
He is a Saudi financier who recruited and led
Arab volunteers for the 'jihad'
against the Soviet invaders in Afghanistan. Since
that war, he has sent his
"Arab Afghans" to fight in Bosnia, Chechnya,
Kashmir and other conflicts
involving Muslims. But he also declared a 'jihad'
against the United States,
declaring it the duty of all Muslims to kill
American soldiers and civilians.
Bin Laden, of course, has no religous standing,
and his religious
rationalization of terrorism is fiercely rejected
by mainstream Islam. The
fugitive Saudi has been accused of authoring a
number of attacks on
Americans, most notably the 1998 embassy bombings
in east Africa. He's also a
prime suspect in the attack on the U.S.S. Cole.
What does Bin Laden Want?
Bin Laden believes Muslim countries should be
ruled according to Islamic
sharia law, thus pitting him against the
pro-Western regimes all over the
Middle East. U.S. support for these regimes and
for Israel, as well as the
presence of "infidel" American forces in Saudi
Arabia are the reasons he
offers for his 'jihad' against the U.S. Bin Laden
wants to drive the U.S. out
of Arab lands, overthrow the governments of Egypt
and Saudi Arabia, and
destroy Israel.
Who are Bin Laden's operatives and how does his
network function?
Bin Laden's own organization, Al Qaida, is based
primarily on Arab volunteers
who fought in Afghanistan and were either
unwilling or unable to return home.
They maintained training camps in Afghanistan,
the Sudan, Yemen and
elsewhere, where they trained fighters for
Islamist armies as far afield as
Chechnya and western China. Many of these
operatives were also trained and
deployed to create the infrastructure for and
execute terrorist actions
against targets associated with the U.S. all over
the world.
The Afghan 'jihad' also established links between
volunteers from Islamist
opposition groups in countries ranging from
Algeria to South Africa and the
Philippines, and Bin Laden has moved — together
with key leaders of Egypt's
influential Islamist movement — to establish
himself at the center of a kind
of Islamist International. Their goal has been to
link organizations spawned
by local grievances all around the world into a
global 'jihad' against the
U.S. and to foster cooperation among these
groups.
Security experts believe Bin Laden's networks are
not tightly or vertically
linked. Instead, any number of smaller cells and
loosely affiliated
organizations receive support from and carry out
operations on behalf of the
Saudi financier and his immediate lieutenants.
Where are they based?
Bin Laden remains holed up in Afghanistan, where
he enjoys the protection of
its ruling Taliban militia. But structures linked
with Bin Laden have been
identified in Yemen, Bosnia, the Philippines,
even New Jersey — pockets of
support have been unearthed in most places where
foreign veterans of the
Afghan war are to be found. Earlier this year, a
New York court convicted a
former Egyptian army major of doing intelligence
work for Bin Laden's
networks — Ali Mohammed had also been a
sergeant in the U.S. Army. And the
Algerians arrested last December for allegedly
smuggling explosives into the
U.S. are suspected of working with Bin Laden,
even though they had been
linked with Algeria's Islamic Salvation Front —
a group that has not
traditionally targeted the U.S. That suggests a
growing tendency towards
cooperation between distinct local groups, which
considerably widens the base
of potential threats against the U.S.
How do Bin Laden's networks differ from other
terrorist groupings in the
Middle East?
Before the Bin Laden group emerged, terrorist
organizations in the Mideast
depended on states to sponsor their activities.
The notorious PLO dissident
Abu Nidal, for example, might carry out attacks
on behalf of Syria, Libya or
other sponsors, as would the notorious Venezuelan
"Carlos the Jackal,"
currently in prison in France. Similarly, the
Lebanese Hezbollah militia has
depended on backing from Iran and a nod and a
wink from Syria. Hezbollah, of
course, has primarily waged a guerrilla war
against Israel in southern
Lebanon, but it has also been a suspect in
terrorist attacks both inside
Lebanon and abroad. But unlike Bin Laden's group
— and the equally
cosmopolitan Abu Nidal — Hezbollah tends to
remain focus on home ground, and
on lending its support and expertise to
Palestinian militants in the West
Bank and Gaza.
The most notorious Palestinian terrorist group of
the past decade has been
Hamas, which has killed scores of Israeli
civilians in suicide bombing
attacks inside Israel. Based in the West Bank and
Gaza, Hamas opposes Yasser
Arafat and the peace process, but it is not known
to have mounted attacks
outside of Israel and the Palestinian
territories. Thus far, Israeli security
officials believe that despite their animosity to
the Jewish State, Osama Bin
Laden's forces have not for the most part
directly targeted Israel.
2001.09.15 | Ihor
і закінчиться ядерною війною, бо Пакистан має ядерну зброю...
Штатівські літаки не можуть без дозволу Пакистану пролетівти до Афгану. А Пакистан це єдина країна яка визнає талібів і має сильну талібську коаліцію в парламенті, та підтримку населення талібам.Якщо нога американського солдата ступить на Пакистанську землю, там може початися громадянська війна, з усіма ядерними наслідками.
2001.09.15 | Ihor
А от що в канадській пресі було сьогодні на цю тему
In an apparent reference to deadly 1999 bombings in Russia blamed on Chechen separatists, the NATO statement said that "the Allies and Russia have suffered from terrorist attacks against civilians."However, the U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Alexander Vershbow, made clear yesterday that his government will not forget its views of Russian actions in Chechnya. According to Agence France-Presse, he conceded that Chechen rebels had received support from outside Muslim terrorist groups, but he insisted that "the Russian approach to solving that conflict is leading them down the wrong path."
Тобто вони повністю відмежовуються від тих методів розвязання проблем які використовує Росія.