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• 2001.09.25 | Мартинюк

  По ББС показували дуже великий список

  При тому лише першу сторінку.
  
  Якщо у список попадуть скажімо якісь палестинські фонди які займаються допомогою біженцям і цивільним , а ті мусульманські фонди часто одночасно займаються і джигадом і благодійністю,правда у різних пропорціях , то конфлікт почне розкручуватися, бо багато сімей зостануться без звичної підтримки.
  Можливо це влаштовує радикально налаштованих євреїв, однак в Америки зразу ж появиться маса ворогів з числа молодих і голодних арабів. Мусульманські фонди дуже різняться від тих які ми спостерігаємо в західному світі. Вони фактично є елементом релігії і побуту. Допомога бідним в ісламі є майже елементом богослужіння і тому сильно інституційована з одного боку, а з другого традиційно забезпечує існування цілого суспільного прошарку. Зокрема з таких фондів часто оплачується вища освіта.
  
  От уявіть собі що американських негрів забрали велфар ( соціальні виплати) а у американських наукових вундеркіндів - державні і приватні стипендії.
  
  Щось подібне може статися якщо фінансовий удар Буша ненароком зачепить розвинуту мусульманську систему допомоги малоімущим.

• 2001.09.26 | Майдан

  How Bin Laden Funds His Network

  
  
  October 1, 2001 Vol. 158 No. 15
  The War On Terror/The Investigation
  
  How Bin Laden Funds His Network
  BY ADAM COHEN
  
  
  
  The day before the World Trade Center attack, someone had a bad feeling
  about American Airlines. Chicago's options exchange usually gets bullish and
  bearish orders in equal numbers, but on Sept. 10, there was heavy betting that
  American's stock was headed down. On the first day of trading after the
  attack, the company's stock plummeted 40%--and the investors who guessed
  right made millions.
  
  But was it a guess? The short selling, as it's
  called, of airline and insurance stocks just
  before the attack has prompted a chilling
  theory: betting against his victims is Osama bin
  Laden's latest fund-raising tactic. An
  international investigation is underway, part of a
  broader probe to figure out how bin Laden
  finances his network.
  
  Al-Qaeda, bin Laden's global terrorist
  network, functions much like the fast-food
  franchises his followers hate. Bin Laden creates
  the service and brand, but the cells largely fund
  their activities. To keep costs down, al-Qaeda
  foot soldiers make money through jobs or
  engaging in petty crime. When Mohamed Atta,
  believed to have been one of the hijackers, was
  in Hamburg, German prosecutors say, he eked
  out a living selling used cars. Many of the
  suspects lived in run-down neighborhoods and
  cheap hotels. In all, experts say, the Sept. 11
  attacks probably cost the hijackers only about
  $200,000.
  
  Bin Laden can afford far more than that. The
  son of a billionaire Saudi construction magnate,
  he has an estimated net worth of hundreds of
  millions of dollars, including real estate in Paris,
  London and the Cote d'Azur, and as much as
  $150 million in stock. He runs a portfolio of
  legitimate businesses across North Africa and
  the Middle East. Companies in sectors ranging
  from shipping to agriculture to investment
  banking throw off profits while also providing
  cover for al-Qaeda's movement of soldiers and
  procurement of weapons and chemicals. Jamal
  Ahmed al-Fadl, a 10-year bin Laden employee
  now in U.S. witness protection, said earlier this
  year that trainees from around the world
  arrived at a bin Laden-owned Sudanese
  holding company--"the mother of all
  companies," he called it--for arms and
  bomb-making training.
  
  But investigators say charity, not bin Laden's
  fortune, is al-Qaeda's main bankroll. Millions
  flow in from wealthy donors in oil-producing
  countries, either out of dedication to his cause
  or as protection money. Islamic charities take in
  billions a year; much of it is used for good, but not all. "Behind one charity,
  business or Islamic group is another," says French terrorism expert Roland
  Jacquard. "The result is that some of these millions are handed over to Islamic
  fighters and terrorists."
  
  Some of bin Laden's money is in mainstream institutions--the Saudis froze his
  assets after the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Africa, though he may have
  money in Switzerland, England and numerous other countries--but al-Qaeda
  also makes heavy use of hawala, an informal Islamic banking network that has
  operated for generations in Asia and the Middle East. Hawala, Hindi for "in
  trust," links brokers around the world who advance funds to depositors on a
  handshake and, sometimes, a password. In remote areas, a broker may have
  little more than a rug and a phone. In larger cities, including some in the U.S.,
  brokers often operate from the back of a store. With no wire transfers,
  balance sheets or financial statements, hawala leaves no trail for law
  enforcement to follow. It's like the Mob, says William Wechsler, a former
  National Security Council official who chaired a task force on bin Laden's
  finances. "There's no shortage of will to attack the Mafia, but we haven't
  completely destroyed its financing system," he says. "Imagine the difficulty of
  going to these other countries where you have no banking system and
  questionable political will."
  
  The U.S. has made halting efforts to grab bin Laden's funds. The Clinton
  Administration issued an Executive Order targeting them in 1998 and froze the
  assets of Afghanistan's Ariana Airlines, which allegedly transported bin
  Laden's forces and equipment. But it never got bin Laden's money.
  
  Now, the feds say, things will be different. President Bush is rolling out the
  Foreign Terrorist Asset Tracking Center, designed to dismantle terrorists'
  financial bases. Past efforts have focused on financial data relating to a single
  crime. But FTAT will look at terrorist organizations worldwide. The
  information gathered, says Treasury Under Secretary Jimmy Gurule, will be
  used "for the express purpose of identifying and disrupting" terrorists' funding.
  Switzerland has agreed, and Sudan and the Cayman Islands reportedly
  agreed, to open their books to U.S. investigators. The Administration has also
  been asking governments like those of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab
  Emirates to cut off funds from individuals and companies that fund bin Laden.
  And some Islamic charities will be coming under increasing IRS scrutiny.
  
  Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill has announced that Treasury, the FBI, the
  Securities and Exchange Commission and the Chicago Board of Options
  Exchange have launched a "full-fledged investigation" of the short selling. If the
  trades originated in the U.S., brokers may have records of who did the buying.
  But if they came from overseas, where buyers can hide their identities, they will
  be harder to trace. Last week regulators from Germany, Britain and other
  countries held a conference call to coordinate their inquiries. None has
  reached a conclusion.
  
  If al-Qaeda engaged in short selling, brokerage records may point to
  as-yet-undiscovered conspirators. There could be pressure to change how
  stock transactions are cleared, making it harder to act anonymously. That
  would take away from bin Laden and other terrorists their most ghoulish form
  of financing: cashing in on the carnage they create.

• 2001.09.27 | Рoман ShaRP

  Re: Ну треба ж з когось починати.

  Світ дааааавно вступив в нову добу, я б скорше здивувався, аби вони подібного не зробили.
  
  Війни пішли не лише збройні, є ще й інформаційні, і економічні теж. Взагалі, рульна формація 3-го тисячоліття то імперія інформаційно-економічна навіть більше, аніж інформаційно-політична.
  
  І якщо поритися в світових подіях останніх років, то я так гадаю, що це і не перший і не останній бій фінансових воєн.
  
  Хіба хочеться додати, що Максим*як правий -- з біблійних часів, а то й раніше відділити агнців від козлів ще ні в кого чисто не вдавалося, тим більше що герої сторони одної -- антигерої іншої.
  
  Проте я таки побажав би Америці успіхів у цій нелегкій справі.
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  • 2001.09.27 | Augusto

    За покищо неперевіреним повідомленням (небуло часу перевірити)Саудівська Аравія розірвала діпломатичні стосунки з Афганістаном.

    За підтримку Талібаном тероризму. Ще за проханнями мусульман назва антитерористичної операції була змінена з "Безкінечної справедливості"(Infinite justice) на "Стійку свободу"(Enduring freedom), бо безкінечна справедливість є рисою Алаха. Здається радників вистачить, щоб розділити чорне від білого (статтю Есімовіча я вже наводив, не забувайте, що він теж мусульман). А для деяких гарячих треба виробити рефлекс: є теракти - нема грошей, нема терактів - є гроші, чи то теж дуже важко для розуміння?
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    • 2001.09.27 | Остап

      Цій "новині" вже два дні :-) (-)

• 2001.09.27 | SpokusXalepniy

  Вот что может быть действительно ударом.

  Уже, наверное, все читали:
  http://www.korrespondent.net/main/29297/
  
  Как по мне, то более серьезного сообщения после 11 сентября я не видел.
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  • 2001.09.27 | Technar

    >> Тут оригінал статті

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20010926-945878.htm
    
    September 26, 2001
    
    
    Bin Laden terror group tries to acquire chemical arms
    By Bill Gertz
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    
    
    U.S. intelligence agencies have uncovered new information that Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group, al Qaeda, are acquiring from the Russian mafia components for weapons of mass destruction. Top Stories
    Bin Laden, the key suspect in the Sept. 11 terror attacks, also is believed by U.S. intelligence to have a secret nuclear weapons laboratory inside Afghanistan, say officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.
    There is no hard evidence that bin Laden or his followers have actually produced chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. A CIA spokesman declined to comment.
    But a U.S. official said contacts between bin Laden and the Russian mafia, and efforts to obtain materials used to make weapons of mass destruction, could not be ruled out because of Afghanistan's porous borders. This official suggested that the reports about the contacts could not confirmed independently by U.S. intelligence agencies. Bin Laden has worked with Russian mafia groups in obtaining chemical and biological weapons materials and nuclear components, according to officials familiar with intelligence reports on the contacts.
    "There are signs they have been supplying [bin Laden] with chemical and biological materials and nuclear components," said a second official familiar with the reports.
    Transporting and then using weapons of mass destruction is difficult, though al Qaeda's use of suicide attackers makes the use of deadly chemical, biological or nuclear weapons somewhat easier, those familiar with terrorist tactics and capabilities say.
    U.S. intelligence agencies have information that bin Laden is operating a secret nuclear weapons laboratory somewhere in Afghanistan. The laboratory is believed to be where bin Laden associates are working on developing nuclear or radiological weapons. Radiological weapons are bombs that kill by spreading radioactive material. This is believed to be one of the sites sought for U.S. military strikes, expected in the next several weeks.
    A recent foreign intelligence service report stated that al Qaeda has obtained some type of nuclear device, but U.S. intelligence officials said they could not confirm that report. The new intelligence report on bin Laden's contacts with the Russian mafia provide new details on al Qaeda's efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction.
    An FBI court document made public in 1998 in New York stated that al Qaeda has tried to purchase enriched uranium since 1993 "for the purpose of developing nuclear weapons." The State Department's latest report on international terrorism says that al Qaeda "continued" to seek chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear capabilities.
    Intelligence officials say classified analysis of the types of chemicals and toxins sought by al Qaeda indicate the group probably is trying to produce the nerve agent Sarin, or biological weapons made up of anthrax spores. Sarin can be produced from the components used to make fertilizer and kills by disrupting the central nervous system. Anthrax is a highly lethal biological weapon that causes death after spores are ingested.
    At its height during the Cold War, the Soviet biological weapons program employed some 65,000 persons, and U.S. officials have feared for years that some of the out-of-work biological weapons scientists would sell their expertise to terrorists like bin Laden.
    The FBI has obtained specific threats since the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that terrorists plan to retaliate for any U.S. strikes on Afghanistan or terrorists around the world by using chemical or biological weapons, the officials said.
    Russian crime groups also have provided bin Laden's Islamic extremists with small arms, the U.S. intelligence officials say. They also are believed to help bin Laden launder the proceeds from drug trafficking.
    Larry Johnson, a former State Department counterterrorism official, says contacts between the Russian mafia and bin Laden could be related to drug trafficking and that cooperation between the two is not surprising.
    "There has been evidence in the past of links between the Taliban militia and the Russian mob on opium," Mr. Johnson says, noting that the Taliban has been a major patron of bin Laden.
    The Russian crime groups purchase opium from Afghanistan and refine it into heroin that is sold in Europe and the United States, he says.