Washington Post: Editorial, The Struggle for Ukraine
02/22/2001 | Broker
The Struggle for Ukraine, 21.02.01
Of all the former Soviet republics to gain independence a decade ago, Ukraine may have started with the most advantages. With a territory the size of France and a population of more than 50 million, it instantly became a country to be reckoned with in Europe; add to that abundant natural resources, a large industrial base and a rich culture and language of its own, and Ukraine seemed sure to thrive outside Moscow's dominion. It joined NATO's Partnership for Peace early on, and President Leonid Kuchma won reelection two years ago by promising to lead the country closer to Western Europe.
Instead, Mr. Kuchma now seems ready to leap into the embrace of Russia's hungry new leader, Vladimir Putin, who has made rebuilding Moscow's power over the former republics a top priority. The reasons are sadly simple. Ukraine has become a sinkhole of political mismanagement and corruption, and Mr. Kuchma himself has been implicated in the brutal murder of a critical journalist. Western governments have responded by properly distancing themselves from the government and demanding an investigation of the murder; the International Monetary Fund, citing economic malfeasance, recently indicated it may suspend loans due to be disbursed next month.
Meanwhile, Mr. Putin has embraced Mr. Kuchma. Last week he traveled to the Ukrainian missile factory that Mr. Kuchma used to manage and signed deals that will connect Ukraine to the Russian electricity grid and create a joint aerospace venture between them. To the delight of Mr. Kuchma, the Russian president ostentatiously dismissed the fact that thousands of protesters have been marching in Kiev to demand the president's resignation. Mr. Putin should be happy, too: In addition to the economic deals, Ukraine recently agreed to full Russian involvement in any NATO exercises held on its territory, as well as closer ties between the Ukrainian and Russian fleets based in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol.
Ukraine's ability to resist Mr. Kuchma's corrupt maneuvering, and the renewed domination by Moscow that seems likely to come with it, depends on how well its fledgling democratic institutions hold up. So far there are some encouraging signs thanks to independent media, including the Web site of murdered journalist Heorhiy Gongadze, the largest political demonstrations in Ukraine's decade of independence have taken place during the past two weeks in Kiev. In parliament, where audiotapes connecting Mr. Kuchma to the Gongadze case were first aired in December, a left-to-right coalition has been formed to press for Mr. Kuchma's removal as well as a series of democratic reforms.
The democrats face an uphill struggle; one of their leaders, former deputy prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, was arrested last week on corruption charges, only four days after joining the National Salvation Forum. Mr. Kuchma is clearly prepared to embrace extreme measures to stop his opponents; the West they aspire to join must do what it can to support them.
Of all the former Soviet republics to gain independence a decade ago, Ukraine may have started with the most advantages. With a territory the size of France and a population of more than 50 million, it instantly became a country to be reckoned with in Europe; add to that abundant natural resources, a large industrial base and a rich culture and language of its own, and Ukraine seemed sure to thrive outside Moscow's dominion. It joined NATO's Partnership for Peace early on, and President Leonid Kuchma won reelection two years ago by promising to lead the country closer to Western Europe.
Instead, Mr. Kuchma now seems ready to leap into the embrace of Russia's hungry new leader, Vladimir Putin, who has made rebuilding Moscow's power over the former republics a top priority. The reasons are sadly simple. Ukraine has become a sinkhole of political mismanagement and corruption, and Mr. Kuchma himself has been implicated in the brutal murder of a critical journalist. Western governments have responded by properly distancing themselves from the government and demanding an investigation of the murder; the International Monetary Fund, citing economic malfeasance, recently indicated it may suspend loans due to be disbursed next month.
Meanwhile, Mr. Putin has embraced Mr. Kuchma. Last week he traveled to the Ukrainian missile factory that Mr. Kuchma used to manage and signed deals that will connect Ukraine to the Russian electricity grid and create a joint aerospace venture between them. To the delight of Mr. Kuchma, the Russian president ostentatiously dismissed the fact that thousands of protesters have been marching in Kiev to demand the president's resignation. Mr. Putin should be happy, too: In addition to the economic deals, Ukraine recently agreed to full Russian involvement in any NATO exercises held on its territory, as well as closer ties between the Ukrainian and Russian fleets based in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol.
Ukraine's ability to resist Mr. Kuchma's corrupt maneuvering, and the renewed domination by Moscow that seems likely to come with it, depends on how well its fledgling democratic institutions hold up. So far there are some encouraging signs thanks to independent media, including the Web site of murdered journalist Heorhiy Gongadze, the largest political demonstrations in Ukraine's decade of independence have taken place during the past two weeks in Kiev. In parliament, where audiotapes connecting Mr. Kuchma to the Gongadze case were first aired in December, a left-to-right coalition has been formed to press for Mr. Kuchma's removal as well as a series of democratic reforms.
The democrats face an uphill struggle; one of their leaders, former deputy prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, was arrested last week on corruption charges, only four days after joining the National Salvation Forum. Mr. Kuchma is clearly prepared to embrace extreme measures to stop his opponents; the West they aspire to join must do what it can to support them.
Of all the former Soviet republics to gain independence a decade ago, Ukraine may have started with the most advantages. With a territory the size of France and a population of more than 50 million, it instantly became a country to be reckoned with in Europe; add to that abundant natural resources, a large industrial base and a rich culture and language of its own, and Ukraine seemed sure to thrive outside Moscow's dominion. It joined NATO's Partnership for Peace early on, and President Leonid Kuchma won reelection two years ago by promising to lead the country closer to Western Europe.
Instead, Mr. Kuchma now seems ready to leap into the embrace of Russia's hungry new leader, Vladimir Putin, who has made rebuilding Moscow's power over the former republics a top priority. The reasons are sadly simple. Ukraine has become a sinkhole of political mismanagement and corruption, and Mr. Kuchma himself has been implicated in the brutal murder of a critical journalist. Western governments have responded by properly distancing themselves from the government and demanding an investigation of the murder; the International Monetary Fund, citing economic malfeasance, recently indicated it may suspend loans due to be disbursed next month.
Meanwhile, Mr. Putin has embraced Mr. Kuchma. Last week he traveled to the Ukrainian missile factory that Mr. Kuchma used to manage and signed deals that will connect Ukraine to the Russian electricity grid and create a joint aerospace venture between them. To the delight of Mr. Kuchma, the Russian president ostentatiously dismissed the fact that thousands of protesters have been marching in Kiev to demand the president's resignation. Mr. Putin should be happy, too: In addition to the economic deals, Ukraine recently agreed to full Russian involvement in any NATO exercises held on its territory, as well as closer ties between the Ukrainian and Russian fleets based in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol.
Ukraine's ability to resist Mr. Kuchma's corrupt maneuvering, and the renewed domination by Moscow that seems likely to come with it, depends on how well its fledgling democratic institutions hold up. So far there are some encouraging signs thanks to independent media, including the Web site of murdered journalist Heorhiy Gongadze, the largest political demonstrations in Ukraine's decade of independence have taken place during the past two weeks in Kiev. In parliament, where audiotapes connecting Mr. Kuchma to the Gongadze case were first aired in December, a left-to-right coalition has been formed to press for Mr. Kuchma's removal as well as a series of democratic reforms.
The democrats face an uphill struggle; one of their leaders, former deputy prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, was arrested last week on corruption charges, only four days after joining the National Salvation Forum. Mr. Kuchma is clearly prepared to embrace extreme measures to stop his opponents; the West they aspire to join must do what it can to support them.
Of all the former Soviet republics to gain independence a decade ago, Ukraine may have started with the most advantages. With a territory the size of France and a population of more than 50 million, it instantly became a country to be reckoned with in Europe; add to that abundant natural resources, a large industrial base and a rich culture and language of its own, and Ukraine seemed sure to thrive outside Moscow's dominion. It joined NATO's Partnership for Peace early on, and President Leonid Kuchma won reelection two years ago by promising to lead the country closer to Western Europe.
Instead, Mr. Kuchma now seems ready to leap into the embrace of Russia's hungry new leader, Vladimir Putin, who has made rebuilding Moscow's power over the former republics a top priority. The reasons are sadly simple. Ukraine has become a sinkhole of political mismanagement and corruption, and Mr. Kuchma himself has been implicated in the brutal murder of a critical journalist. Western governments have responded by properly distancing themselves from the government and demanding an investigation of the murder; the International Monetary Fund, citing economic malfeasance, recently indicated it may suspend loans due to be disbursed next month.
Meanwhile, Mr. Putin has embraced Mr. Kuchma. Last week he traveled to the Ukrainian missile factory that Mr. Kuchma used to manage and signed deals that will connect Ukraine to the Russian electricity grid and create a joint aerospace venture between them. To the delight of Mr. Kuchma, the Russian president ostentatiously dismissed the fact that thousands of protesters have been marching in Kiev to demand the president's resignation. Mr. Putin should be happy, too: In addition to the economic deals, Ukraine recently agreed to full Russian involvement in any NATO exercises held on its territory, as well as closer ties between the Ukrainian and Russian fleets based in the Black Sea port of Sevastopol.
Ukraine's ability to resist Mr. Kuchma's corrupt maneuvering, and the renewed domination by Moscow that seems likely to come with it, depends on how well its fledgling democratic institutions hold up. So far there are some encouraging signs thanks to independent media, including the Web site of murdered journalist Heorhiy Gongadze, the largest political demonstrations in Ukraine's decade of independence have taken place during the past two weeks in Kiev. In parliament, where audiotapes connecting Mr. Kuchma to the Gongadze case were first aired in December, a left-to-right coalition has been formed to press for Mr. Kuchma's removal as well as a series of democratic reforms.
The democrats face an uphill struggle; one of their leaders, former deputy prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko, was arrested last week on corruption charges, only four days after joining the National Salvation Forum. Mr. Kuchma is clearly prepared to embrace extreme measures to stop his opponents; the West they aspire to join must do what it can to support them.
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2001.02.22 | Broker
Це вже серійозно...
The democrats face an uphill struggle.... Mr. Kuchma is clearly prepared to embrace extreme measures to stop his opponents; the West they aspire to join must do what it can to support them.Це неякаби газета, це газета яку ціла американська політична еліта читає і поважає...
2001.02.22 | Пані
Re: Це вже серійозно...
Broker писав(ла):> Це неякаби газета, це газета яку ціла американська політична еліта читає і поважає...
Мне так тоже кажется, что США наконец определилась в отношении нашего кризиса. Посмотрим, что будет делать завтра (то есть сегодня по Киеву) десант из конгрессменов.
Я далека от мыслей вроде "заграница нам поможет", но внешнее давление будет очень кстати в деле убирания Кучмы от власти.
2001.02.22 | Broker
Re: Це вже серійозно...
Тиск безумовно буде, зокрема після того як автентичніст аудіозаписів буде встановлений. Але це буде тиск на Кучму, не на Україну. Ми це вже бачили в Раді Європи--Захід буде всякими способами підкреслювати що Україна і Кучма «дві великі різниці», що Україну і Українців люблять і поважають. Контакти на не-президентському рівні--конгресмени, парламентарі, представники міжнародних і громадських організацій і т.д.--розмножаться....І на дезерт, Павло Лазаренко заспіває...2001.02.22 | Пані
Re: Це вже серійозно...
Я тоже думаю, что так и будет все развиваться.Broker писав(ла):
> І на дезерт, Павло Лазаренко заспіває...
Сегодня краем уха что-то услышала "всплыли подробности о Лазаренко во Франции" - так как была занята разговором даже не отследила где это было.
В любом случае дело "Лазаренко обвиняет Кучму в клевете" уже наклевывается. Это точно попадет во все газеты
2001.02.22 | ilia25
Согласен
Мне кажется, что Запад немного преувеличивает опасность сближения Украины с Россией. Может Кучма этого и хочет (хотя наверняка и не очень то), но заявить об этом открыто он даже сейчас не решается. Продолжает трындеть про демократию и европейский выбор.Антизападная реторика на Украине не прокатит. И если Кучма к ней прибегнет, это может еще больше ухудшить его положение. Так что по-моему Западу не следует бояться надавить на Кучму конкретно.
2001.02.22 | St*inger
ilia25 спростовує Директора ЦРУ
Джордж Тенет, директор ЦРУ:"Нет сомнений в том, что президент Путин желает восстановления некоторых аспектов советского прошлого - статуса великой державы, сильной центральной власти и стабильного и предсказуемого общества - иногда за счет соседних государств и гражданских прав отдельных россиян". (из доклада комиссии Сената США, 8 февраля 2001 г.)
Кого має на увазі Тенет під "сусідніми державами", за рахунок яких Путін збирається відновити супердержаву? Монголію? Естонію? Норвегію? Китай?
Які будуть думки?
Звичайно, Тенет - це не ilia25 і його висловлюваннями можно не придавати зайвої уваги.:-)
"Запад немного преувеличивает опасность сближения Украины с Россией"
Звичайно, перебільшує! Так перебільшує, що Директор ЦРУ (напевне особа яка дуже слабо розбирається в російському питанні) доповідає про це своїм сенаторам - яким взагалі до дупи де ті Росія і Україна. І яких цікавить лише одне - безпека своєї держави.
І чомусь, абсолютно випадково, саме ці слова Тенета стають відомими пресі.
Все це хєрня насправді!
Бо Расія тут нє прічьом! Страшнєє Кучми звєря нєт! :-)))
2001.02.22 | ilia25
А вас в школе читать учили?
Я что, хоть слово написал о российской политике? Причем здесь Путин? У него свои цели -- и я о них не упоминал.Мой пост был о том, что В УКРАИНЕ антизападная и/или пророссийская идеологоия не популярна, поэтому Западу не стоит ее бояться. Причем здесь Путин?
2001.02.23 | Хай Вам ...
Re: А вас в школе читать учили?
ilia25 писав(ла):> Я что, хоть слово написал о российской политике? Причем здесь Путин? У него свои цели -- и я о них не упоминал.
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> Мой пост был о том, что В УКРАИНЕ антизападная и/или пророссийская идеологоия не популярна, поэтому Западу не стоит ее бояться. Причем здесь Путин?
Aga, i 112 golosiv v parlamenti tsyomu pidtverdzhennya....
2001.02.23 | ilia25
Re: А вас в школе читать учили?
112 голосов -- это 1/4 часть ВР. И потом Кучма не может серьезно расчитывать на поддержку коммунистического электората. Коммунисты и Кучма официально считают себя врагами.Если Кучма открыто объявит антизападный курс -- никто его не поддержит. Наоборот, его сочтут предателем.
2001.02.23 | Shm
Вперед, брати, до світлої мети.
какой там прозападный, пророссийский,про ещекакойто курс. Он шкуру свою, и
своей кучмонавтики спасает.
Сферы влияния на государство можно
распространить только поддержав здоровые силы этого самого общества. Правда в самой России с этим свои проблемы... Поживем,увидим.
Встретимся на барикадах!!!
2001.02.23 | ilia25
Re: Вперед, брати, до світлої мети.
Shm писав(ла):> какой там прозападный, пророссийский,
> про ещекакойто курс. Он шкуру свою, и
> своей кучмонавтики спасает.
Это понятно. Но Запад боится ужесточить отношения с Кучмой потому, что Кучма будет использовать антизападные настроения в Украине для борьбы с оппозицией -- точно как это делал Лукашенко, а сейчас делает Путин.
Я хочу сказать, что эти опасения не обоснованы, так как во-первых, антизападные настроения в Украине не настолько популярны, а во-вторых -- Кучма не может их использовать, и не выглядеть при этом предателем.
2001.02.23 | Shm
Re: Вперед, брати, до світлої мети.
я понимаю, нокурс политики президента носит случайный характер: где дадут, там и красть.
т.е. даст МВФ - нормально, Россия отпустит - тоже ничего. Народ молчит - можно и у него. А предатель он или нет - для меня не вопрос.