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Хто конкретно мав стати кіллером Юща?

12/12/2004 | Varenyk
Не хотілося б, щоб між цими двома подіями справді виявився якийсь зв"язок, але ...

В рідному місті одного з перших замів глави СБУ (де він поряд з героями війни і труда є почесним громадянином ще з того часу, коли ЗЕКономив на сніданках свій перший мільйон та подарував УАЗік місцевому осередку ДемСоюзу) ще з п"ятниці хтось наполегливо розпускає слухи про його самовбивство (кажуть, що новозпечений юрист/розвідник ніби-то застрелився).

Австріяки сказали, що отруєння сталося десь 5 вересня. Чи не тоді приблизно занесло Юща на тайну вечерю до рицарів плаща і кинжала?

Ну не колгоспники ж в Хоружівці його труїли!

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  • 2004.12.12 | SpokusXalepniy

    Полезный слух.

    Varenyk пише:
    > В рідному місті одного з перших замів глави СБУ (де він поряд з героями війни і труда є почесним громадянином ще з того часу, коли ЗЕКономив на сніданках свій перший мільйон та подарував УАЗік місцевому осередку ДемСоюзу) ще з п"ятниці хтось наполегливо розпускає слухи про його самовбивство (кажуть, що новозпечений юрист/розвідник ніби-то застрелився).
    > Австріяки сказали, що отруєння сталося десь 5 вересня. Чи не тоді приблизно занесло Юща на тайну вечерю до рицарів плаща і кинжала?

    Подозрение именно на эту тайную вечерю.

    А вот тот факт, что он застрелился, говорит скорее о том, что его таки застрелили под самоубийство и теперь его легко сделать отравителем-одиночкой, который перед смертью успел многим рассказать, что он лично такую сильный нэприязнь испитывал к патерпэвшему...
    згорнути/розгорнути гілку відповідей
    • 2004.12.12 | S@nya

      Re: Полезный слух.

      SpokusXalepniy пише:

      >
      > А вот тот факт, что он застрелился...

      Насколько я понял, это еще не факт, а только слухи...
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      • 2004.12.12 | otar

        До речі, як там здоров'я Івана Різака? (-)

      • 2004.12.13 | Varenyk

        Жыв курілка

        Слава богу, Сацюк живий-здоровий.

        Тим не менше, підтверджено, що Малином в п"ятницю зранку миттєво рознісся слух про самомбивство Сацюка. Цікаво, що Ющ на той час ще навіть не вилетів у Відень, де було оголошено про його отруєння 5 вересня + - один день.

        Раніше (тепер генерал-майор СБУ!, дивись їх офіційний сайт)Сацюк показав себе чудовим "ісполнітелем" (один спланований розвал банку "Україна" це підтверджує), то ж було б не дивно, якби путін с чуком озадачили його і на цей раз.

        Читайте також статтю 3 нижче. Хто є фанатом англійського чтива, може також підписатися на цю розсилку статей про Україну в англомовній пресі написавши на morganw@patriot.net

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        -----INDEX OF ARTICLES-----
        "Major International News Headlines and Articles"

        1. ORDEAL HARDENED YUSHCHENKO'S RESOLVE
        By Chrystia Freeland, Tom Warner and Stefan Wagstyl
        The Financial Times, London, UK, Sun, December 12, 2004

        2. A STORY OF POWER AND POISON IS NOW ETCHED
        ON THE FACE OF UKRAINE'S HERO
        Askold Krushelnycky in Kiev
        The Independent, London, United Kingdom; Sun, Dec 13, 2004

        3. LINKS: FATEFUL DINNER PARTY THAT BROUGHT
        DISFIGUREMENT IN ITS WAKE
        Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow, Guardian
        London, United Kingdom, Monday, Dec 13, 2004

        4. KGB LEGACY OF POISON POLITICS
        Doctors confirmed that dioxin poisoned Ukraine's Yushchenko.
        By Scott Peterson and Fred Weir, The Christian Science Monitor
        Boston, MA, Monday, December 13, 2004

        5. UKRAINE'S YUSHCHENKO CALLS FOR DELAY IN
        INVESTIGATION OF HIS POISONING
        Natasha Lisova, Kiev, Ukraine, AP Worldstream; Dec 13, 2004

        6. UKRAINE MUST SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DRAIN
        THE POISON FROM ITS POLITICS
        The Independent, London, United Kingdom, Mon, Dec 13, 2004

        7. UKRAINE: POISONED RELATIONS
        The Guardian, London, United Kingdom, Mon, Dec 13, 2004

        8. VITALI KLITSCHKO CELEBRATES BIG BOXING WIN
        RETURNS TO UKRAINE FOR ANOTHER FIGHT
        By Tim Dahlberg, AP Worldstream, Las Vegas, NV, Sat, Dec 12, 2004

        9. 'THE REVOLUTION HAS LOST STREAM RECENTLY BUT
        KLITSCHKO'S WIN HAS LIFTED OUR SPIRITS'
        Roman Olearchyk in Lvov, The Guardian
        London, United Kingdom, Monday, Dec 13, 2004

        10. OBSERVER: UKRAINE NOTEBOOK
        By Tom Warner in Kiev, Financial Times
        London, UK, Sunday, December 12 2004

        11. HARTFORD RALLY DRAWS SEVERAL HUNDRED
        IN SUPPORT OF ORANGE REVOLUTION IN UKRAINE
        Hartford, Connecticut, Sunday, December 12, 2004

        12. UKRAINE MIGHT YET TASTE JUSTICE
        GUEST VIEWPOINT: By Svitlana Kravchenko and John Bonine
        The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon, December 10, 2004

        13. UKRAINE SPLIT BETWEEN EAST AND WEST BY
        HISTORY AND CULTURE
        By Matthew Schofield, Knight Ridder, Sun, Dec 12, 2004

        14. POLAND PLAYS STRATEGIC ROLE IN UKRAINE'S
        "ORANGE REVOLUTION"
        By Taras Kuzio, Eurasia Daily Monitor
        Volume 1, Issue 144, The Jamestown Foundation
        Washington, D.C, Friday, December 10, 2004

        15. 'THE COUNTRY CALLED ME'
        Ukraine's newly sovereign society is throwing off the governing mob
        Timothy Garton Ash in Kiev, The Guardian
        London, United Kingdom, Thu, Dec 09, 2004
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        ACTION UKRAINE REPORT-04, No. 258: ARTICLE NUMBER ONE
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        1. ORDEAL HARDENED YUSHCHENKO'S RESOLVE

        By Chrystia Freeland, Tom Warner and Stefan Wagstyl
        The Financial Times, London, UK, Sun, December 12, 2004

        People close to Viktor Yushchenko, the Ukrainian opposition leader and
        favourite to win the December 26 re-run of the contested presidential
        elections, say that, as a person, he is embarrassed and self-conscious about
        the disfigurement caused by what his Viennese doctors said over the weekend
        was dioxin poisoning. But as a politician, the ordeal seems to have hardened
        Mr Yushchenko's resolve and brought him closer to his people.

        "I have changed, of course," he said in an interview with the Financial
        Times. "I think in the past year the nation has paid a high price to be able
        to say that this is a European country, a democratic country." For Mr
        Yushchenko's cheering supporters, their once handsome hero's disfigured
        visage has become a very personal symbol of that price.

        "What happened to me was a political act to destroy the leader of the
        opposition," Mr Yushchenko said. Though his opponents still contest the
        charge of poisoning, the illness did force Mr Yushchenko into hospital and
        off the hustings for several crucial weeks during the campaign, an absence
        Oleksandr Zinchenko, his campaign manager, says was a real blow. But Mr
        Zinchenko said the opposition leader's visible suffering had acted to his
        advantage. "It had a big impact on the voters," Mr Zinchenko said in an
        interview. "Viktor suffered from the regime things a normal person could
        not survive. If he could survive this, he could survive anything."

        This demonstration of strength was perhaps particularly important for Mr
        Yushchenko, who has sometimes been portrayed by his political opponents
        as being too westernised and too soft to prevail in the hurly-burly of
        Ukraine's rough post-Soviet politics.

        But there has been nothing soft about the leader who rose from his hospital
        bed to return to a campaign trail booby-trapped by state-created obstacles
        and who then called his nation out on to the streets when the results of the
        voting were falsified.

        For Mr Yushchenko the peaceful protests represented a transformation for
        the nation and a return to Ukraine's deep national traditions. Now, he said,
        Ukrainians could remind both themselves and the rest of Europe of the
        'democratic' chapters in their history for example, the Cossack tradition of
        elected leaders. "These were unique rights which were passed down through
        families, from grandfather to father."

        They were a particularly important part of his own world-view, Mr Yushchenko
        said, because his own native village in north-eastern Ukraine was the winter
        resting place of Cossacks, and knowledge of these lapsed civic rights had
        been part of his family's oral history during his childhood in the Soviet
        Union.

        As Mr Yushchenko starts on the final two weeks of Ukraine's election
        marathon, telling voters about family experiences like these, redolent as
        they are of the particular customs and history of Ukraine's eastern regions,
        will be his most urgent task.

        With his support in central and western Ukraine even stronger after the wave
        of public protest, Mr Yushchenko and his team now hope to reach out to the
        east and south, from which his opponent, Viktor Yanukovich, prime minister,
        draws most of his support.

        Mr Yushchenko's success in these parts of the country in previous rounds of
        voting was impeded in part by iron-fisted local authorities. But it is also
        true that in these areas the Yanukovich campaign's portrayal of Mr
        Yushchenko as a rabid pro-American hostile to Russian speakers fell on more
        fertile ground. But he remains confident of victory, predicting support from
        at least 60 per cent of voters and a majority in at least 19 of Ukraine's 27
        regions.

        One big advantage will be the continuing erosion of support for Mr
        Yanukovich from the state machine. Vasyl Baziv, deputy chief of President
        Leonid Kuchma's administration, told the FT over the weekend that he,
        together with most members of the presidential administration, supported
        Mr Yushchenko. Mr Yanukovich has admitted to the widening rift between
        himself and Mr Kuchma's central government in Kiev.

        He sees himself as betrayed by the central authorities and is restyling
        himself for the final leg of the election battle as the representative of
        thwarted voters: "I am very disappointed with those to whom I gave my
        trust, with whom I worked for two years [as prime minister]. They are
        cowards and betrayers." -30- [Action Ukraine Monitoring Service]
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        2. A STORY OF POWER AND POISON IS NOW ETCHED
        ON THE FACE OF UKRAINE'S HERO

        Askold Krushelnycky in Kiev
        The Independent, London, United Kingdom, Sun, Dec 13, 2004

        KIEV - IT IS difficult to believe that poison is an ingredient of modern
        politics in a country that aspires to join the European Union. Yet the grey
        and ravaged face of the Ukrainian opposition leader, Viktor Yushchenko,
        provided ghastly testimony yesterday that such sinister methods are still
        part of the 21st century political arsenal.

        Seated in a Vienna clinic where he underwent blood tests, Mr Yushchenko
        thanked his doctors, who confirmed over the weekend that he had been
        poisoned by massive amounts of the industrial toxin dioxin.

        The swollen blisters that have disfigured his face were caused by 1,000
        times the normal level of dioxin in his body, said Dr Michael Zimpfer, the
        director of the Rudolfiner clinic that treated him. "If this dose had been
        higher, it may have caused death," he said.

        Some of Mr Yushchenko's closest associates have privately blamed the
        poisoning on the Kremlin which fears that he will remove Ukraine from
        Moscow's influence.

        Yet as prosecutors in Ukraine reopened a criminal investigation into his
        illness, which struck after he dined with a senior member of the Ukrainian
        intelligence service, Mr Yushchenko refused to renew those accusations. "I
        don't want this factor to influence the election in some way - either as a
        plus or a minus," he said. "This question will require a great deal of time
        and serious investigation. Let us do it after the election."

        With Ukraine about to rerun a vote expected to propel him into the
        presidency, Mr Yushchenko prefers to look to the future as he returns to
        the campaign trail.

        The controversial run-off vote, which has now been annulled by the country's
        supreme court amid allegations of ballot-rigging, led to his rival, Prime
        Minister Viktor Yanukovych, being briefly declared president of Ukraine.

        But the confirmation of the poisoning is likely to lead to further
        speculation that the Kremlin was involved. It also gives credence to rumours
        that Russian special forces had been sent to the capital, Kiev, and then
        hastily withdrawn.

        Ukraine's strategic importance is such that Russian President Vladimir Putin
        spoke in favour of Mr Yanukovych, who wooed the Russianised east of the
        country with pledges to make Russian a second state language and to offer
        dual citizenship.

        A leading member of Mr Yushchenko's coalition, MP Yuriy Pavlenko, voiced
        the suspicion, held by many of his colleagues, that Russian intelligence was
        involved in the poisoning. "I was always convinced this was poisoning and
        an attempt on Yushchenko's life," he said.

        Ukrainian intelligence services have said that they have no chemical or
        biological facilities and that during the Soviet era, when they were part of
        the KGB, specialised products of that sort were provided by Moscow.

        There are historical precedents. Soviet intelligence agents were responsible
        for the shooting in a Paris church in 1924 of the leader of a short-lived
        Ukrainian state, Symon Petlyura. Ukraine's most prominent post-war
        nationalist leader, Stepan Bandera, was assassinated in Munich in 1959
        by a pistol firing a poisonous mist which brought on a heart attack.

        Mr Yushchenko, according to his friends, has coped well with the nightmarish
        illness. Much of the time he has received painkillers from a semi-permanent
        intravenous device while addressing his supporters.

        Yesterday he was resolutely upbeat as he declared: "The government that
        has been in power for the last 14 years is now in its final days. I think it
        would be appropriate to compare this to the fall of the Soviet Union or
        the fall of the Berlin Wall." -30- [Action Ukraine Monitoring Service]
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        3. LINKS: FATEFUL DINNER PARTY THAT BROUGHT
        DISFIGUREMENT IN ITS WAKE

        Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow, Guardian
        London, United Kingdom, Monday, Dec 13, 2004

        MOSCOW - It was no routine dinner party, its guests as distinguished as
        its agenda was questionable. On the night of September 5 the leader of the
        Ukrainian opposition, Viktor Yushchenko, met Igor Smeshko, the head of
        the Ukrainian security service, the SBU, and his deputy, Volodymyr Stasiuk,
        reportedly a confidant of the outgoing president, Leonid Kuchma.

        The opposition had asked for the meeting to discuss how the SBU, the
        successor to the KGB, would act during the forthcoming electoral campaign.
        Mr Yushchenko was ahead in most of the polls, and presumably sought
        assurances that the SBU would stay neutral. At Mr Smeshko's luxurious dacha
        outside Kiev, they ate and drank until the small hours. But it was not until
        Mr Yushchenko returned home that the first traces came to light of the
        poisoning that was to nearly take his life.

        Kateryna, his wife, told ABC on Friday: "I thought there was something
        different about my husband when he came home that night - because he has
        never taken any medicine, he's a very healthy man. And I tasted some
        medicine on his breath, on his lips. And I asked him about it, he brushed it
        away, saying there is nothing."

        It was a typical reaction from a man whose tanned, square-jawed face had
        helped catapult him from being a former national bank chief to presidential
        contender in four years. A healthy, vigorous man at 50, he listed skiing and
        basketball among his hobbies.

        So when that night the illness first struck, he shrugged it off as bad food
        poisoning. Yet the abdominal pains grew in intensity, interrupting his heavy
        campaigning. By September 10, local doctors had recommended he seek
        expert treatment abroad. When he arrived at the private Rudolfinerhaus
        clinic in Vienna, his body was in an almost total state of collapse. He was
        groggy, and had the same chronic abdominal pain, and his organs appeared
        close to collapse.

        His blood tests showed severe abnormalities. His face and upper chest were
        covered in unusual lesions. His digestive tract and stomach were speckled
        with ulcers and bleeding abrasions. Eight days of intensive tests followed,
        yet the doctors, led by the director of the clinic, Michael Zimpfer, could
        not pin down the cause of his illness. They said at the time that he had
        arrived too late after falling ill for any poison he had ingested to still
        be in his bloodstream.

        Without Mr Yushchenko, the opposition's campaign was faltering, so he
        opted for a plan to allow him to get back on the election trail. Doctors
        inserted a drip into his spine to deliver constant painkillers. Three days
        after checking himself out of the Vienna clinic, he stood before parliament
        and accused the government of trying to kill him.

        "Look at my face," he said. "Note my articulation. This is one-hundredth of
        the problems that I've had. I want to know the names of the assassins very
        much. But even without any investigation the answer is simple - the killer
        is the regime. I survived because my guardian angels were not asleep at the
        time. Every one of you is next, however."

        On September 28, he returned to Vienna for further tests. The doctors were
        no nearer establishing the cause. They suspected foul play, but had no
        evidence of poison, instead suggesting various rare diseases, such as the
        condition rosacea, might be to blame for his facial disfigurement.

        He pressed on with campaigning, but the disfigurement remained the
        unanswered question behind his election campaign and the 16-day crisis
        that followed.

        Days after parliament passed constitutional changes, the proof that doctors
        at the Rudolfinerhaus had sought for weeks finally emerged. "We could do
        a diagnosis and check his symptoms," said Dr Zimpfer.

        "But we had no experience in advanced chemical weapons or biological
        weapons. We made an international call to several experts in Europe and the
        US." He said they had been able to pinpoint that the poison was based on
        dioxin. The doctors said on Saturday that he had arrived in Vienna with
        levels of dioxin in his blood a thousand times above normal.

        The Yushchenko campaign refuses to name any suspects for the poisoning.
        "Mr Yushchenko does not want revenge," said his spokeswoman Irina
        Gerashenko, who said the prosecutor general's renewed investigation
        should make conclusions alone. She added: "Then the courts can decide."
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        www.vru.gov.ua, Ukrainian high council of justice;
        www.gulflink.osd.mil/bw-ii/bw-tabe.htm, US military: the T2 dioxin;
        www.guardian.co.uk/ukraine
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        4. KGB LEGACY OF POISON POLITICS
        Doctors confirmed that dioxin poisoned Ukraine's Yushchenko.

        By Scott Peterson and Fred Weir, The Christian Science Monitor
        Boston, MA, Monday, December 13, 2004

        MOSCOW - The weekend confirmation that Ukrainian presidential candidate
        Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned left some analysts of Russian politics
        shrugging: What would an election be in Russia, or any former Soviet
        republic, without some KGB-style episode against a key opponent? The
        scandal-ridden Ukrainian election fits a historical - as well as
        latter-day - pattern of ruthless tactics brought to bear against political
        opponents. In 2002, for example, a warlord in Chechnya was killed by a
        poisoned letter.

        "This case of poisoning Yushchenko is not an isolated one at all," says
        Andrei Piontkovsky, head of the Center for Strategic Studies in Moscow.
        "This practice was routine for the KGB in Soviet times, and I don't think
        their successors have higher moral standards." Mr. Yushchenko Sunday
        checked out of a clinic in Vienna after doctors confirmed that dioxin
        poisoning was responsible for severe facial scarring and skin discoloration.
        Yushchenko has long claimed that the condition was the result of an
        assassination attempt.

        Ukrainian authorities on Saturday reopened a criminal investigation into the
        poisoning, which had been closed by the former prosecutor Gennady Vasilyev
        for lack of evidence. Although dioxins are a common industrial pollutant,
        doctors said Yushchenko had 1,000 times the normal concentration in his
        system, leading to conclusions of foul play. "We suspect involvement of an
        external party, but we cannot answer as to who cooked what or who was with
        him when he ate," Dr. Michael Zimpfer told reporters in Vienna Saturday.

        Whether by coincidence or not, Mr. Yushchenko fell ill soon after dining on
        Sept. 5 with the head of Ukraine's SBU secret service, Gen. Igor Smeshko.
        Officials and Ukraine's state-run media had scoffed at Yushchenko's claims
        of poisoning, pointing instead to his love of sushi and high living as the
        probable cause.

        Speculation Sunday centered on who may have been responsible - cronies of
        outgoing President Leonid Kuchma, or even Russia's Federal Security Service
        (FSB), successor to the KGB. Both were seen as eager to engineer victory for
        Moscow's clear choice in the election, prime minister Viktor Yanukovich.
        Sunday, Yushchenko said he was "very happy to be alive in this world today."

        Dioxins are byproduct chemicals created by factories that use chlorine, such
        as those that make pesticide and plastics. A stronger dose could have been
        lethal to the large Ukrainian politician. Doctors say he may need two years
        or more to fully recover.

        It was not clear how the incident would affect the vote, which Yushchenko is
        expected to win. But the West-leaning candidate said the political
        transformation that he has helped engineer has had no parallel in Ukraine
        for a century. "I think it would be appropriate to compare this to the fall
        of the Soviet Union or the fall of the Berlin Wall," Yushchenko said.

        Whoever wins the Dec. 26 Ukraine election will inherit an ossified political
        system that is still locked in a Soviet-style political environment and has
        often used violence to deal with opponents.

        Among the most bizarre cases is the disappearance of muckraking online
        editor Georgiy Gongadze in September 2000. A month later, a headless
        body was found on the outskirts of Kiev. Audiotapes of conversation from
        the president's office - taped secretly by Mr. Kuchma's bodyguard - later
        surfaced and appeared to link Mr. Kuchma to the killing. The bodyguard
        later was given asylum in the US.

        The standard of intrigue, however, has been set in nearby Russia - a
        tradition that stretches back at least as far as Rasputin. His assassins in
        1916 first tried unsuccessfully to poison the czar's court confidant with
        cyanide-laced pastries and wine, before using bullets, knives, and finally
        drowning.

        When it comes to modern Russian politics, the presidential vote earlier this
        year provided its own spectacle. Ivan Rybkin, a former speaker of the Duma
        and top Kremlin official under Boris Yeltsin who ran against President
        Vladimir Putin, disappeared for five days - about a month before the vote.

        When Mr. Rybkin resurfaced, he first told a garbled tale about meeting
        friends in Kiev; later in London, he claimed that he was abducted by the
        FSB, drugged, and forced to make a compromising video.

        More recently two different journalists covering the Beslan hostage crisis
        in September say they were drugged - one on a plane, another during an FSB
        interrogation - to prevent their coverage of the story. Medical tests later
        confirmed one of the cases.

        Friends and family of Yury Shchekochikin, a Duma deputy and deputy editor
        of the opposition newspaper Novaya Gazeta in Moscow, believe that his death
        after an unexplained skin rash in July 2003 - while he was investigating a
        company owned by former KGB top brass - may have been due to dioxin
        poisoning.

        And in early 2002, the FSB celebrated its killing of a Saudi-born warlord in
        Chechnya, called Khattab, who had once fought the Soviets in Afghanistan. In
        the mid-1990s, Khattab became a key Chechen link to foreign funding and
        Islamist militants. He received the letter from the FSB through
        intermediaries.

        "It is technically quite possible to be killed by poison put on paper," Oleg
        Kalugin, a cold war defector who now lives in America, told the London
        Sunday Times in 2002. "I recall in the old Soviet days the KGB planned to
        assassinate some people by putting poisonous gel on the door handle of a
        car." In 1978, a Bulgarian agent famously used a spring-loaded umbrella to
        fire a deadly ricin pellet into Soviet defector Georgi Markov at a London
        bus stop.

        Further back in history, Stalin's secret police staged a car crash in 1948,
        to kill Solomon Mikhoels, a Soviet Yiddish actor and theater director, and
        head of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee during World War II. Another
        famous case was that of the well-known pro-Bolshevik novelist Maxim Gorky,
        who died in 1936. The secret police chief at the time confessed to poisoning
        him at his trial two years later.

        Even Boris Yeltsin, who later became president, once claimed in 1990 that he
        had been grabbed while walking and thrown off a bridge into the Moscow
        River. He showed up at a friend's place bruised, in tattered clothes, and
        soaking wet. -30- [The Action Ukraine Report Monitoring Service]
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        5. UKRAINE'S YUSHCHENKO CALLS FOR DELAY IN
        INVESTIGATION OF HIS POISONING

        Natasha Lisova, Kiev, Ukraine, AP Worldstream; Dec 13, 2004

        KIEV - Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko called for a serious
        investigation to determine how he was poisoned by dioxin, but urged it be
        conducted after the Dec. 26 presidential runoff election to avoid
        influencing the results. Doctors at Vienna's Rudolfiner clinic said tests
        run over the weekend proved beyond a doubt that it was dioxin poisoning
        that caused a mystery illness in September that left Yushchenko disfigured
        and in pain.

        "I don't want this factor to influence the election in some way - either as
        a plus or a minus," Yushchenko said as he left the Austrian clinic Sunday
        and headed back to Kiev. "This question will require a great deal of time
        and serious investigation. Let us do it after the election - today is not
        the moment."

        Following the revelation of the dioxin poisoning, Ukraine's prosecutor
        general's office said it had reopened the criminal investigation that it
        closed in November for lack of evidence at the time.

        While high concentrations of dioxin remain in his blood, doctors said
        Yushchenko's organs have not been damaged and he is fit for the campaign
        trail. "He has almost made a complete recovery," hospital director Dr.
        Michael Zimpfer told The Associated Press. "His liver is fine, his pancreas
        is fine, but he still has residual pain."

        Lawmakers from Yushchenko's party said the clinic's findings confirmed that
        his opponents wanted to assassinate or disable him rather than take the risk
        he would defeat Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential
        election. Kremlin-backed Yanukovych won the initial presidential runoff, but
        the Supreme Court voided the vote on fraud allegations.

        Yanukovych campaigners rejected suggestions that the prime minister could
        have been involved in the poisoning. There is "no logic in such an
        accusation," said Taras Chornovyl, Yanukovych's campaign manager.

        Yushchenko fell ill Sept. 5 and has been treated at the Vienna clinic twice
        before. A lab in Amsterdam, using a newly developed test, found his blood
        contained more than 1,000 times the normal amount of dioxin, Zimpfer said.
        Tests showed the toxin was taken orally, and was likely slipped into
        something that Yushchenko ate or drank, Zimpfer said, suggesting that
        whoever was responsible may have thought it untraceable.

        Dioxin is a byproduct of industrial processes such as waste incineration and
        chemical and pesticide manufacturing. The massive quantities of it found in
        Yushchenko's system caused chloracne, a type of adult acne caused by
        exposure to toxic chemicals. The condition is treatable, but can take two to
        three years to heal. Zimpfer said Yushchenko's treatment will now be "very
        difficult and long."

        Among other things, dioxins are known to cause cancer, and Dr. Nikolai
        Korpan, the physician who has been treating Yushchenko, said it was too
        early to tell what other problems might develop. For now, he said, "we can
        confirm that his health is very good at this moment and he can do his job,"
        Korpan said.

        Also Sunday, Yanukovych's spokesman, Oleh Ternovsky, said that the prime
        minister wants Ukraine's parliament to form a commission to investigate
        whether the United States helped finance Yushchenko's campaign. Washington
        has spent more than US$65 million (Euro 49.1 million) in the past two years
        to aid political organizations in Ukraine, but U.S. officials say no
        American funds were sent directly to political parties. -30-
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        ACTION UKRAINE REPORT-04, No.258: ARTICLE NUMBER SIX
        Your comments about the Report are always welcome
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        6. LEADING ARTICLE: UKRAINE MUST SEIZE THIS OPPORTUNITY
        TO DRAIN THE POISON FROM ITS POLITICS

        The Independent, London, United Kingdom, Mon, Dec 13, 2004

        THE CONCLUSION of Austrian doctors that the Ukrainian Presidential
        candidate, Viktor Yushchenko, was poisoned with dioxins, is the sort of
        chilling twist that one might expect to find in the plot of a John Le Carre
        thriller. But, as so often in the former lands of the Soviet Union, truth
        can be just as sinister as fiction. And the implications of this piece of
        information promise to be just as dramatic.

        Mr Yushchenko's supporters have long argued, of course, that poisoning
        was the cause of the illness that almost killed him during the Ukrainian
        presidential campaign earlier this year. Although Mr Yushchenko did not
        die, his face has been hideously deformed, to the extent that it is now
        barely recognisable. The fact that this illness struck after a dinner with
        the head of Ukraine's secret services left his supporters in no doubt that
        foul play was involved. But the statement by the experts of the Viennese
        clinic on Saturday is the first independent confirmation of the poisoning
        theory, and the likelihood that dioxins were slipped into Mr Yushchenko's
        food. It now seems clear that an attempt was made, if not to murder Mr
        Yushchenko, to eliminate him from the political race. Such a cowardly
        and barbaric attack on a democratic leader is deplorable.

        The other Presidential candidate, Viktor Yanukovych, had most to gain from
        the removal of Mr Yushchencko. Without Mr Yushchenko, there would have
        been no focal point for the massive protests against a poll corrupted by
        widespread intimidation and fraud .

        It is important to note that Mr Yanukovych, as the Prime Minister (and the
        preferred candidate of the tyrannical outgoing President, Leonid Kuchma)
        had the powers of the state at his disposal, including the secret services.
        The Ukrainian state under Mr Kuchma's leadership is no stranger to
        accusations of murder. Several political journalists have died in mysterious
        circumstances in recent years, including Georgiy Gongadze, whose headless
        corpse was discovered in 2000.

        But Mr Yanukovych's links with the Russian Government also raise disturbing
        questions. The Russian secret services, of which President Vladimir Putin
        was once chief, have long been suspected of finding ruthless ways to silence
        opponents of the regime, including the alleged poisoning of a Russian
        journalist on her way to cover the Beslan hostage crisis earlier this year.
        In this context, Mr Yushchenko's suspicions that his political enemies,
        which include the Putin government, tried to kill him seem eminently
        reasonable.

        It is to be hoped that Ukrainian prosecutors, who are to re- open their
        investigation into this affair, will now make a serious attempt to establish
        the identity of the culprits. But many Ukrainians are already making up
        their minds about what they believe, and this will no doubt be reflected in
        the result of the repeated run-off election that will take place on 26
        December. The decision by the supreme court to declare the former
        election invalid and to order a new poll was a triumph for Ukrainian
        democracy. And despite the enduring support for his opponent among
        Ukraine's Russian-speaking population in the East, the latest opinion
        polls suggest that Mr Yushchenko will be victorious.

        Ensuring that the democratic will of the people of Ukraine is heard is not
        just in the interests of the country. It is also in the interests of her
        western neighbours. The European Union has a duty to do what it can to
        stabilise the states neighbouring its easternmost border. As in Turkey, the
        prospect of closer ties including, eventually, EU membership, could hasten
        Ukraine's reforms. It could provide the impetus for the country to shake
        off the last vestiges of its totalitarian history, and on the evidence of
        what has happened to Mr Yushchenko's that is something that is urgently
        needed.

        Russia too would benefit. Mr Yushchenko's orange- clad supporters have
        given heart to Russian democrats. The success of their vigil in Kiev has
        shown that it is possible to stand up to the apparatus of an oppressive,
        post-Soviet regime. If Ukraine succeeds, a better future might beckon for
        Russia too. -30- [The Action Ukraine Report Monitoring Service]
  • 2004.12.13 | Максим’як

    Re: Мої розрахунки показують, що КУЧМА

    Що я можу ствердити однозначно:

    1. Що Кучма знав, що 5 вересня 2004 буде отуєно Ющенка
    2. Дуже радів з цього приводу у цей день

    З тих, хто повинен був це знати, чи бути більш причетним до цього отруєння, розрахунки показують на Смешка, а не на Сацюка.

    Причетність Жванії, яку закидалося, як посередника зустрічі із есбістами ( була така інформація, що Жванія дуже просив Ющенка прийти на цю зустріч), не виглядає очевидною, він міг бути тільки розмінною фігурою у грі.

    Я можу точно вказати послідовність осіб чи рейтинг, причетних до отруєння, у порядку від вищого до нижчого. Отже, найвищий рейтинг

    1. Кучма
    2. Путін
    2. Медведчук
    3. Смешко

    Ініціатива йшла від Кучми. Тут все 100%. За інших, то чисто гіпотетично, таких осіб із подібними характеристиками існує багато і я про них нічого не знаю (звичайне співпадіння), але про Кучму є багато інформації, яку можна закласти у аналіз і все показує на Кучму.


    Стосовно самого отруєння, то це була спроба вбивства, проблема виникла у дозуваннні, коли на літр води розраховується доза, щоб вона не повинна мати раптову дію і жертва повинна той умовний літр випити (зЇсти) з отрутою.

    Те, що розмазалося на стінках чи залишилося у посудині, переконаний. врятувало життя Ющенку.
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    • 2004.12.13 | капітан Немо

      Ви ж не ТОменко ? То не Томіть, а всю правду розкажіть !

      Ну, давайте, розкажіть нам про Кучму 5-го вересня.
      Дуже цікаво.
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      • 2004.12.14 | Максим’як

        Re: Це важко розповісти.

        Чому, бо розрахунки полягають у побудові спектрів і аналізу їх.
  • 2004.12.15 | Sokker

    Re: Хто конкретно мав стати кіллером Юща?

    :( Ми з вами мали рацію? :




    КУЧМА ЗВІЛЬНИВ САЦЮКА, ЯКОГО ПІДОЗРЮЮТЬ В ОТРУЄННІ ЮЩЕНКА

    www.ПРАВДА.com.ua, 15.12.2004, 12:49

    КУЧМА ЗВІЛЬНИВ САЦЮКА, ЯКОГО ПІДОЗРЮЮТЬ В ОТРУЄННІ ЮЩЕНКА


    Першого заступника голови СБУ Володимира Сацюка указом Кучми звільнено з посади.

    Про це розповів спікер Володимир Литвин, вітаючи суддів з їх професійним святом.

    За його словами, у вівторок Київський апеляційний суд задовольнив його заяву про несумісність депутатства з діяльністю в органах виконавчої влади Володимиром Сацюком.

    "Наскільки мені відомо, чинився тиск на суддів, але судді прийняли те рішення, яке вимагає Конституція", - сказав Литвин.

    Він додав, що "після того, фактично, заднім числом з`явився указ президента про звільнення людини з посади і вимоги переглянути рішення суду".

    Таким чином, на сьогодні Сацюк фактично позбавлений і мандату народного депутата, і посади в СБУ. В той же час суд може переглянути своє рішення у зв`язку з заявою нових обставин, зазначив спікер.

    Литвин підкреслив, що він може однозначно заявити, що парламент всіма доступними методами захищатиме незалежне правосуддя в Україні, і в цьому випадку також.

    Як відомо, у парламенті Сацюк є членом фракції СДПУ(о).

    Як відомо, з Сацюком пов’язаний скандал із отруєнням Ющенка. Саме на дачі Сацюка відбулася його зустріч з Ющенком, після якої, вірогідно, лідер "Нашої України" отруївся. На вечері також був присутній Смєшко.

    УНІАН, "Українська правда"

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    • 2004.12.15 | otar

      імпоцибл

      Щоб Медведчук, Віктор свєт Володимирович, зараз здав Сацюка - свого чєловєка в СБУ, та ще й нардепа-есдека!! Смієтесь? Його звільнили, щоб зберегти за ним мандат. Мандати їм тепер потрібніші.
    • 2004.12.15 | alt

      В этой версии слишком все очевидно и тупо

      Руководитель СБУ и его зам приглашают оппозиционного кандидата в президенты на "тайную вечерю" на дачу этого зама и тупо насыпают диоксин в суши...

      Если отравление действительно произошло там, то 99%, что травил какой-то засланный казачок из ФСБ, типа прислуги или т.п.
      При любом раскладе СБУшники оказывались первыми подозреваемыми.

      -------------
      Кстати:
      Нові тести показують, що рівень діоксину в крові Віктора Ющенка в 6 тисяч разів перевищує норму.
      http://www2.pravda.com.ua/archive/2004/december/15/news/26.shtml
  • 2004.12.17 | Sokker

    Хто конкретно мав стати кіллером Юща

    http://www.rian.ru/rian/intro.cfm?nws_id=763063

    Ющенко назвал своих отравителей

    17.12.04 10:43



    МОСКВА, 17 дек - РИА "Новости". Кандидат в президенты Украины от оппозиции Виктор Ющенко возложил ответственность за попытку отравить его на руководство Службы безопасности Украины. Об этом сам Ющенко заявил в интервью агентству Ассошиэйтед Пресс.
    Как отмечает агентство, Ющенко впервые назвал точное время и место попытки отравления. Она, по его словам, была предпринята 5 сентября нынешнего года за обедом с руководителем Службы безопасности Украины Игорем Смешко и его заместителем Владимиром Сацюком.

    "Это было единственное место, где не присутствовал никто из моей команды, и не предпринимались какие-либо предосторожности в отношении еды, - заявил Ющенко в интервью АП. - Это был проект политического убийства, подготовленного властями".

    "Власти пошли на это потому, что я оппонент, кандидат в президенты Украины от оппозиции", - сказал Ющенко.

    Руководитель службы безопасности Ющенко Евгений Червоненко подтвердил АП, что в тот день он пробовал всю еду кандидата в президенты за исключением той, что подавалась на загородной даче Сацюка.

    Как указывается в докладе специальной парламентской комиссии, созданной Верховной Радой Украины, в ходе затянувшегося до глубокой ночи обеда на даче Сацюка Ющенко ел речных раков, запивая их водкой, пивом и коньяком, отмечает АП.

    Спустя три часа после окончания обеда Ющенко пожаловался на сильную головную боль и обратился в частную австрийскую клинику в Вене. Спустя 12 часов после обеда Ющенко стал жаловаться на сильную боль в животе. Проведенные впоследствии анализы показали наличие в крови Ющенко диоксинов, концентрация которых в шесть тысяч выше нормы, передает агентство.

    "Я не сомневаюсь в том, что в течение нескольких дней или недель эта цепочка приведет к властям, к конкретным людям, представляющим правительство - к тем, кто подмешивал яд, к тем, кто в этом замешан, к тем, у кого был приобретен яд, к тем, кто благословлял это на разных уровнях власти", - заявил Ющенко.

    Ранее он обещал "рассказать всю правду" об отравлении после завершения выборов президента Украины.





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