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10/15/2007 | Vyacheslav
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Last Ukrainian tour with steam locos announced, February 2008!
2007-09-12 Valentin Back to Top
Economical, market situation and technical problems make continuing this type of tours imposible. "Dzherelo" company announces that in 2008 their steam locos will be scraped.
For now we are receiving a lot of letters with question - "What happened?". One of them came from our Swiss friend and customers Mr. Christian Amman:
"...We never got an idea, how many steam engins are propriety of Dzherelo, what for engins and so we don't know about what will be scrapped. It would be interesting to know the reasons of this changement, just in a time, when it became easier to go to Ukraina. Is one of the reason that died Mr. Kirpa, the changement of gouvernement. Is it the concurrence of Belarus and Russia, who offers nice steam trains in good condition? And what will become Dzherelo? But almost you see that many people are looking this events with (sad) interest and ask how, why?
Best regards, Christian"
For the moment we have as our private property 6 steam locos: Su, L, L, YEA, Er. Em (1524 mm gauge). Exactly these steam locos will be scrappe for metal during the next year. The reason is very sinple - economics. Today these steam locos are stabled in 2 loco depots - Kolomiya and Chernovtsy. Each month depots require payment for taking care of them, it's approximately 100 US$ per each. It means per month we pay 600-700 US$. But what is the sence of it?
And more than that the steam loco YEA cannot be operated as it requires the overhaul repair. The next year is the final date (10 years period of their last repairng) and it means that all of them should
repaired in shops. In Ukraine the repair of one steam loco costs about 50 000 US$ (as minimum). It means it is necessary to spend about 300 000 US$ for all totaly.
From the other side, there is no request for the steam loco tours (in compare with the former years). Less and less the steam loco enthusiasts but the prices ( for coal, oil, salary of drivers and etc.) are increasd each year For example in 2005 we operated 2 tours with the income about 10 000 US$. In 2006 - 1 tour with the income 7 000 US$ and in 2007 - 1 tour with the income 5 000 US$.
With such a tendency the mathematics is very simple. In case we repair all the steam locos: 300 000 US$ : 5 000US$ = 60
It means we need 50-60 years to work without any income and work only with the aim to return money spent for repairing back.
The Ukraine government is not at all interested to safe this technique and more than that the Ukraine museums have no money to buy these locos even for the price as metal.
For a while I do not see the way out. May be you can suggest some idea?
As for the "Dzherelo" company I don't wory. We actively work operating the railway tours and particulalwe operate ordinary r/w tours to China, TransSybirea and more than that we actively develop a new profitable business - IT technology as well as the advertising the tour companies in INTERNET Portal www.Tourua.com
So all the team is together and quite happy.
We are not the first one who stop steams operation. But the time came for this historic locos even for tourist ideas. You are invited to take part in this last steam locos tour with unforgetable
impressions. We are looking for all of our old friends and customers in the last steam loco tour, February 2008. You are welcome.
Last Ukrainian tour with steam locos announced, February 2008!
2007-09-12 Valentin Back to Top
Economical, market situation and technical problems make continuing this type of tours imposible. "Dzherelo" company announces that in 2008 their steam locos will be scraped.
For now we are receiving a lot of letters with question - "What happened?". One of them came from our Swiss friend and customers Mr. Christian Amman:
"...We never got an idea, how many steam engins are propriety of Dzherelo, what for engins and so we don't know about what will be scrapped. It would be interesting to know the reasons of this changement, just in a time, when it became easier to go to Ukraina. Is one of the reason that died Mr. Kirpa, the changement of gouvernement. Is it the concurrence of Belarus and Russia, who offers nice steam trains in good condition? And what will become Dzherelo? But almost you see that many people are looking this events with (sad) interest and ask how, why?
Best regards, Christian"
For the moment we have as our private property 6 steam locos: Su, L, L, YEA, Er. Em (1524 mm gauge). Exactly these steam locos will be scrappe for metal during the next year. The reason is very sinple - economics. Today these steam locos are stabled in 2 loco depots - Kolomiya and Chernovtsy. Each month depots require payment for taking care of them, it's approximately 100 US$ per each. It means per month we pay 600-700 US$. But what is the sence of it?
And more than that the steam loco YEA cannot be operated as it requires the overhaul repair. The next year is the final date (10 years period of their last repairng) and it means that all of them should
repaired in shops. In Ukraine the repair of one steam loco costs about 50 000 US$ (as minimum). It means it is necessary to spend about 300 000 US$ for all totaly.
From the other side, there is no request for the steam loco tours (in compare with the former years). Less and less the steam loco enthusiasts but the prices ( for coal, oil, salary of drivers and etc.) are increasd each year For example in 2005 we operated 2 tours with the income about 10 000 US$. In 2006 - 1 tour with the income 7 000 US$ and in 2007 - 1 tour with the income 5 000 US$.
With such a tendency the mathematics is very simple. In case we repair all the steam locos: 300 000 US$ : 5 000US$ = 60
It means we need 50-60 years to work without any income and work only with the aim to return money spent for repairing back.
The Ukraine government is not at all interested to safe this technique and more than that the Ukraine museums have no money to buy these locos even for the price as metal.
For a while I do not see the way out. May be you can suggest some idea?
As for the "Dzherelo" company I don't wory. We actively work operating the railway tours and particulalwe operate ordinary r/w tours to China, TransSybirea and more than that we actively develop a new profitable business - IT technology as well as the advertising the tour companies in INTERNET Portal www.Tourua.com
So all the team is together and quite happy.
We are not the first one who stop steams operation. But the time came for this historic locos even for tourist ideas. You are invited to take part in this last steam locos tour with unforgetable
impressions. We are looking for all of our old friends and customers in the last steam loco tour, February 2008. You are welcome.