Ludvik Zivcak офіцер чеського ГБ росказує як готовив 'революцію'
03/08/2009 | Сергій Кабуд
1.http://www.collapseofcommunism.com/int10.html
2.http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/i64htgReatDeception_Nyquist.html
(стаття наведна внизу)
1.Я був офіцером розвідки, з метою створити і організувати фальшиві дисидентський групи званої незалежної студентської організації. Ця організація була доручена проникнути іншими опозиційними групами і розвивати контакти зі своїми керівниками всієї Чехословаччини. Груп, як хартія 77, демократична ініціатива, перебування, і так далі. Ця мета була досягнута. Наша організація остаточного задача полягала в тому, щоб 17 листопада студентські демонстрації в народно třída. Був конфронтацію, фізичний контакт із заворушеннями поліції, тіло цієї людини на місці. Інші речі відбувалися навколо нього, щоб підтримати басня. Тіло (моє тіло) було перевезено до лікарні На Frantisku. Я мав фальшивий паспорт, фальшиві ID, і в одну сторону квиток до Москви, щоб залишити Чехословаччини після цієї операції минув. Все було, але потім, на жаль, я не отримав наказ виїхати з країни. Так до сих пор я що фальшивий паспорт і повітря відзначений у Москві в моєму розпорядженні.
Так що, іншими словами, до 1988 року більшість з так званих демократичних елементів, і анти-комуністичних елементів, що працюють у Чехословаччині було маніпулювати комуністичної таємної поліції. Ці групи знали вони проникли, однак не знають, хто в них дійсно працюють на розвідки або контррозвідки розвідувальних служб.
The Collapse of Communism: The Untold Story
Ludvik Zivcak
I was the intelligence officer with the objective to create and organize a fake dissident group called Independent Student Organization. This Organization was charged to infiltrate other dissident groups and develop contact with their leaders throughout the Czechoslovakia. The groups like Charta 77, Democratic Initiative, Host, and so on. This objective was achieved. Our organization’s final task was to bring the November 17 students’ demonstration to Narodni Trida. There was a confrontation, physical contact with the riot police, body of the man on the ground. Other things happened around it to support the fable. The dead body (my body) was then transported to the hospital Na Frantisku. I had false passport, fake ID, and the one-way air ticket to Moscow to leave Czechoslovakia after this operation was over. Everything was set but then, unfortunately, I didn’t get the order to leave the country. So till today I have that fake passport and the air ticked to Moscow in my possession.
So, in other words, by 1988 the majority of so called democratic elements or anti-communist elements operating in Czechoslovakia were manipulated by communist secret police. These groups knew they were infiltrated but had no idea who within them was actually working for intelligence or counter intelligence services.
---------------------------
Filming the Great Deception
Jeffrey R. Nyquist
Cinematographer Robert Buchar is attempting to put together a documentary feature film about the end of the Cold War and the collapse of Communism in Europe. Its working title is The Grand Deception Ц Uncertain History. Based on interviews with former Communist Bloc intelligence officers, CIA officials and scholars, the documentary shows that Communism did not collapse spontaneously. The directive for change came from Moscow. УPeople powerФ had nothing to do with it.
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Former CIA chief Bagley: the collapse of Communism was a maneuver
According to Buchar, УFor the last three years I couldnТt find any media interested in this topic.Ф Pundits and news anchors told us, again and again, that the revolutions in Eastern Europe were caused by popular discontent. According to conservative partisans, the Soviet Union fell because Ronald Reagan pushed it over. Not so, says Buchar: УThe version of events presented to the public is very different from what actually happened.Ф
On this subject, Buchar interviewed various insiders and analysts. Former chief of CIA Soviet Bloc Counterintelligence, Tennant H. УPeteФ Bagley told Buchar that an unknown hand was behind the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe. УThere was a different truth in this respect,Ф Bagley said. Уand thatТs a truth that was so well hidden that I donТt know if it ever will come outЕФ
According to Ludvik Zivcak, a Communist secret police official tasked with organizing the demonstration that triggered the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, УMany people think or believe that in 1989 there was a mass uprising of the nation. From what I did, or where I worked, I am convinced that there was no uprising at all. ItТs hard to find out today who wrote the script but it wasnТt written in America. America just jumped on the bandwagon at the end. So, the script was most probably written in the East.Ф
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In 1989 the "velvet revolution" in Czechoslovakia was an orchestrated event. "By whom?" asks Buchar
According to the Soviet dissident researcher and former political prisoner Vladimir Bukovsky, УThe KGB was an integral part of the whole of GorbachevТs perestroika.Ф Bukovsky told Buchar that the West: Уnever understood the Soviet system as such,Ф failing to comprehend Уwhy it was inherently aggressive,Ф and dangerous. The West made useless treaties with Russia, УAs if a piece of paper could ever stop that monster.Ф The West did not understand Stalin, Khrushchev or Brezhnev, and would never grasp the sinister side of GorbachevТs peace offensive. УSo they would all believe nonsense,Ф noted Bukovsky, Уincredible nonsense, to believe that there is a struggle between reformers and conservatives in the Politburo and the leadership.Ф
At the end of the Cold War, at the Malta Summit between President Bush and Mikhail Gorbachev, the following exchange was recorded for posterity: Secretary of State James Baker raised the issue of upholding Western values and the Russians became upset. President George H.W. Bush intervened with a decisive comment: УLetТs avoid careless words and further discussions about Сvalues.Т From the bottom of our heart we salute upcoming changes.Ф
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Bush pretended he and Gorbachev were
on the same page at the Malta Summit
This is what the Russians wanted to hear. American values and assistance in the fall of Communism were not welcome because the KGB was setting up its own version of democracy, and its own version of capitalism. Bukovsky interprets the Malta exchange as follows: УSimply, Gorbachev told Bush that he is going to change regimes in Eastern Europe completelyЕ but he seriously asked the United States and Western allies not to get involved. Not to stir up trouble there. Because itТs very fragile, a very delicate transition period. СWe will do it, donТt worry, but donТt get involved. DonТt spoil it.Т And Bush promised not to get involved.Ф
So, the changes were initiated from Moscow and the United States was told to stay out of it. It was the business of the KGB to manage the collapse of Communism, and now we see Ц more clearly than we did in 1991 Ц where this collapse has taken us. EuropeТs attitude has shifted against American foreign policy. To our consternation a KGB officer is president of the Russian Federation. Former agents and officials of the secret police are leading many of the УformerФ Warsaw Pact countries. The oppression of dissent is carried out by gangland-style assassinations (as in the deaths of Anna Politkovskaya and Paul Klebnikov). The jailing of dissidents is carried on under legal pretexts.
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On his deathbed Litvinenko, above, accused Putin of murder
Czech journalist and politician Jan Stetina told Buchar, УAfter a few years it became clear that the term Сfall of CommunismТ doesnТt reflect reality. The excitement didnТt last for long and I would say that now we are in a state of disillusionment.Ф As Czech dissident and former political prisoner Petr Cibulka explained: УI was released from prison ten days after November 17 [1989] and for the first couple of weeks I believed that changes were happening. But after a few weeks I realized that the changes were just cosmetic changes, changing of the scenery; that the power would remain in the hands of the Communists and that the Communists donТt need to worry about losing anything.Ф Cibulka further stated, УThis is not a revolution but another Communist swindle.Ф
Former Czech political prisoner Vladimir Hucin told Buchar, УI signed Charter 77 after I was released from prison in 1986. When I later got access to documents from the STB [Communist secret police] archives I discovered how many people from Charter 77 were involved with the STB, how many agents the STB had in this group. That was a big disappointment for me.Ф
As Czech historian Pavel Zacek confirmed to Buchar, УThe STB functioned very effectively. They infiltrated all regional opposition groups. They managed to place their agents in the top leadership positions of Civic Forum and recruit new agents within CzechoslovakiaТs popular social democratic parties. There were no documents found about how this operation was runЕФ
Robert Buchar is a cinematographer from Czechoslovakia who defected in 1980 and came to the United States in 1981. He worked as a cameraman for CBS, and since 1990 he has taught cinematography at Columbia College, Chicago.
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The hammer and sickle flies openly in Russia
In 1999 Buchar produced the documentary film Velvet Hangover which was turned into a book in 2003 titled Czech New Wave Filmmakers in Interviews. УIt was the work I did on this book that led me to the idea to shoot this film,Ф Buchar explained. УAnd it was the former Czech dissident and political prisoner Petr Cibulka who convinced me to do it, telling me, СIf you are not going to make this film, nobody ever will.Т So I started to work on this documentary, The Grand Deception Ц Uncertain History, in 2004 and finished the principle photography in June 2007. I am editing the interviews now, but everything is on hold pending the problem of raising money to buy stock news footage necessary to finish the film. Maybe I will have to publish the book before finishing the film.Ф
As a former citizen of Communist Czechoslovakia, what did Buchar learn from his interviews? УYou have an idea about an event beforehand,Ф said Buchar, Уand it changes when you hear all the details from eye-witnesses. And then, of course, connecting the dots from different places leads to a horrifying picture and a conclusion that concerns me. People usually give me that weird look when I say that I decided to defect from my country because, back in the late 70s, I came to the conclusion that the process of changing the system was already underway and when it would happen, it would be orchestrated from inside with the outcome predetermined and unacceptable to me. I just didnТt think it would come so soon. I would have given it ten more years at the time.Ф
Readers may wonder what Buchar thinks about the Western response to the collapse of Communism. УWell,Ф he said, Уthere was one thing I learned that I wasnТt aware of before Ц the level of incompetence in the CIA as far as their knowledge of the Communist system is concerned, the way it operated in Eastern Bloc countries, ignoring the importance of ideology and the level of Soviet infiltration in the agency. Something that Bill Gertz calls the anti-anti-Communist mindset in the agency. That was really shocking for me.Ф
Posted October 17, 2007
2.http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/i64htgReatDeception_Nyquist.html
(стаття наведна внизу)
1.Я був офіцером розвідки, з метою створити і організувати фальшиві дисидентський групи званої незалежної студентської організації. Ця організація була доручена проникнути іншими опозиційними групами і розвивати контакти зі своїми керівниками всієї Чехословаччини. Груп, як хартія 77, демократична ініціатива, перебування, і так далі. Ця мета була досягнута. Наша організація остаточного задача полягала в тому, щоб 17 листопада студентські демонстрації в народно třída. Був конфронтацію, фізичний контакт із заворушеннями поліції, тіло цієї людини на місці. Інші речі відбувалися навколо нього, щоб підтримати басня. Тіло (моє тіло) було перевезено до лікарні На Frantisku. Я мав фальшивий паспорт, фальшиві ID, і в одну сторону квиток до Москви, щоб залишити Чехословаччини після цієї операції минув. Все було, але потім, на жаль, я не отримав наказ виїхати з країни. Так до сих пор я що фальшивий паспорт і повітря відзначений у Москві в моєму розпорядженні.
Так що, іншими словами, до 1988 року більшість з так званих демократичних елементів, і анти-комуністичних елементів, що працюють у Чехословаччині було маніпулювати комуністичної таємної поліції. Ці групи знали вони проникли, однак не знають, хто в них дійсно працюють на розвідки або контррозвідки розвідувальних служб.
The Collapse of Communism: The Untold Story
Ludvik Zivcak
I was the intelligence officer with the objective to create and organize a fake dissident group called Independent Student Organization. This Organization was charged to infiltrate other dissident groups and develop contact with their leaders throughout the Czechoslovakia. The groups like Charta 77, Democratic Initiative, Host, and so on. This objective was achieved. Our organization’s final task was to bring the November 17 students’ demonstration to Narodni Trida. There was a confrontation, physical contact with the riot police, body of the man on the ground. Other things happened around it to support the fable. The dead body (my body) was then transported to the hospital Na Frantisku. I had false passport, fake ID, and the one-way air ticket to Moscow to leave Czechoslovakia after this operation was over. Everything was set but then, unfortunately, I didn’t get the order to leave the country. So till today I have that fake passport and the air ticked to Moscow in my possession.
So, in other words, by 1988 the majority of so called democratic elements or anti-communist elements operating in Czechoslovakia were manipulated by communist secret police. These groups knew they were infiltrated but had no idea who within them was actually working for intelligence or counter intelligence services.
---------------------------
Filming the Great Deception
Jeffrey R. Nyquist
Cinematographer Robert Buchar is attempting to put together a documentary feature film about the end of the Cold War and the collapse of Communism in Europe. Its working title is The Grand Deception Ц Uncertain History. Based on interviews with former Communist Bloc intelligence officers, CIA officials and scholars, the documentary shows that Communism did not collapse spontaneously. The directive for change came from Moscow. УPeople powerФ had nothing to do with it.
I064_Tennent_Bagley.jpg - 20565 Bytes
Former CIA chief Bagley: the collapse of Communism was a maneuver
According to Buchar, УFor the last three years I couldnТt find any media interested in this topic.Ф Pundits and news anchors told us, again and again, that the revolutions in Eastern Europe were caused by popular discontent. According to conservative partisans, the Soviet Union fell because Ronald Reagan pushed it over. Not so, says Buchar: УThe version of events presented to the public is very different from what actually happened.Ф
On this subject, Buchar interviewed various insiders and analysts. Former chief of CIA Soviet Bloc Counterintelligence, Tennant H. УPeteФ Bagley told Buchar that an unknown hand was behind the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe. УThere was a different truth in this respect,Ф Bagley said. Уand thatТs a truth that was so well hidden that I donТt know if it ever will come outЕФ
According to Ludvik Zivcak, a Communist secret police official tasked with organizing the demonstration that triggered the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, УMany people think or believe that in 1989 there was a mass uprising of the nation. From what I did, or where I worked, I am convinced that there was no uprising at all. ItТs hard to find out today who wrote the script but it wasnТt written in America. America just jumped on the bandwagon at the end. So, the script was most probably written in the East.Ф
I064_VelvetUprising.jpg - 58308 Bytes
In 1989 the "velvet revolution" in Czechoslovakia was an orchestrated event. "By whom?" asks Buchar
According to the Soviet dissident researcher and former political prisoner Vladimir Bukovsky, УThe KGB was an integral part of the whole of GorbachevТs perestroika.Ф Bukovsky told Buchar that the West: Уnever understood the Soviet system as such,Ф failing to comprehend Уwhy it was inherently aggressive,Ф and dangerous. The West made useless treaties with Russia, УAs if a piece of paper could ever stop that monster.Ф The West did not understand Stalin, Khrushchev or Brezhnev, and would never grasp the sinister side of GorbachevТs peace offensive. УSo they would all believe nonsense,Ф noted Bukovsky, Уincredible nonsense, to believe that there is a struggle between reformers and conservatives in the Politburo and the leadership.Ф
At the end of the Cold War, at the Malta Summit between President Bush and Mikhail Gorbachev, the following exchange was recorded for posterity: Secretary of State James Baker raised the issue of upholding Western values and the Russians became upset. President George H.W. Bush intervened with a decisive comment: УLetТs avoid careless words and further discussions about Сvalues.Т From the bottom of our heart we salute upcoming changes.Ф
I064_Bush_and_Gorbachev_MaltaSummit.jpg - 30142 Bytes
Bush pretended he and Gorbachev were
on the same page at the Malta Summit
This is what the Russians wanted to hear. American values and assistance in the fall of Communism were not welcome because the KGB was setting up its own version of democracy, and its own version of capitalism. Bukovsky interprets the Malta exchange as follows: УSimply, Gorbachev told Bush that he is going to change regimes in Eastern Europe completelyЕ but he seriously asked the United States and Western allies not to get involved. Not to stir up trouble there. Because itТs very fragile, a very delicate transition period. СWe will do it, donТt worry, but donТt get involved. DonТt spoil it.Т And Bush promised not to get involved.Ф
So, the changes were initiated from Moscow and the United States was told to stay out of it. It was the business of the KGB to manage the collapse of Communism, and now we see Ц more clearly than we did in 1991 Ц where this collapse has taken us. EuropeТs attitude has shifted against American foreign policy. To our consternation a KGB officer is president of the Russian Federation. Former agents and officials of the secret police are leading many of the УformerФ Warsaw Pact countries. The oppression of dissent is carried out by gangland-style assassinations (as in the deaths of Anna Politkovskaya and Paul Klebnikov). The jailing of dissidents is carried on under legal pretexts.
I064_litvinenko.jpg - 21071 Bytes
On his deathbed Litvinenko, above, accused Putin of murder
Czech journalist and politician Jan Stetina told Buchar, УAfter a few years it became clear that the term Сfall of CommunismТ doesnТt reflect reality. The excitement didnТt last for long and I would say that now we are in a state of disillusionment.Ф As Czech dissident and former political prisoner Petr Cibulka explained: УI was released from prison ten days after November 17 [1989] and for the first couple of weeks I believed that changes were happening. But after a few weeks I realized that the changes were just cosmetic changes, changing of the scenery; that the power would remain in the hands of the Communists and that the Communists donТt need to worry about losing anything.Ф Cibulka further stated, УThis is not a revolution but another Communist swindle.Ф
Former Czech political prisoner Vladimir Hucin told Buchar, УI signed Charter 77 after I was released from prison in 1986. When I later got access to documents from the STB [Communist secret police] archives I discovered how many people from Charter 77 were involved with the STB, how many agents the STB had in this group. That was a big disappointment for me.Ф
As Czech historian Pavel Zacek confirmed to Buchar, УThe STB functioned very effectively. They infiltrated all regional opposition groups. They managed to place their agents in the top leadership positions of Civic Forum and recruit new agents within CzechoslovakiaТs popular social democratic parties. There were no documents found about how this operation was runЕФ
Robert Buchar is a cinematographer from Czechoslovakia who defected in 1980 and came to the United States in 1981. He worked as a cameraman for CBS, and since 1990 he has taught cinematography at Columbia College, Chicago.
I064_russian_hammer_Sickle.jpg - 39216 Bytes
The hammer and sickle flies openly in Russia
In 1999 Buchar produced the documentary film Velvet Hangover which was turned into a book in 2003 titled Czech New Wave Filmmakers in Interviews. УIt was the work I did on this book that led me to the idea to shoot this film,Ф Buchar explained. УAnd it was the former Czech dissident and political prisoner Petr Cibulka who convinced me to do it, telling me, СIf you are not going to make this film, nobody ever will.Т So I started to work on this documentary, The Grand Deception Ц Uncertain History, in 2004 and finished the principle photography in June 2007. I am editing the interviews now, but everything is on hold pending the problem of raising money to buy stock news footage necessary to finish the film. Maybe I will have to publish the book before finishing the film.Ф
As a former citizen of Communist Czechoslovakia, what did Buchar learn from his interviews? УYou have an idea about an event beforehand,Ф said Buchar, Уand it changes when you hear all the details from eye-witnesses. And then, of course, connecting the dots from different places leads to a horrifying picture and a conclusion that concerns me. People usually give me that weird look when I say that I decided to defect from my country because, back in the late 70s, I came to the conclusion that the process of changing the system was already underway and when it would happen, it would be orchestrated from inside with the outcome predetermined and unacceptable to me. I just didnТt think it would come so soon. I would have given it ten more years at the time.Ф
Readers may wonder what Buchar thinks about the Western response to the collapse of Communism. УWell,Ф he said, Уthere was one thing I learned that I wasnТt aware of before Ц the level of incompetence in the CIA as far as their knowledge of the Communist system is concerned, the way it operated in Eastern Bloc countries, ignoring the importance of ideology and the level of Soviet infiltration in the agency. Something that Bill Gertz calls the anti-anti-Communist mindset in the agency. That was really shocking for me.Ф
Posted October 17, 2007
Відповіді
2009.03.08 | Мартинюк
Воли і мухи - а ми також орали
Не перечу активної участі , але нічого б не сталося якби чеські студенти того не захотіли, а чеське суспільство того не прагнуло.Всі розвідки і контори постійно "пасуть" всілякі дисденські групи засилають туди стукачів, намагаються вербувати там "двійників". Але від того ці групи не стають підрозділами спецслужб, хоча звісно офіцери дуже люблять хвалитися "що все у них під контролем, ето я самий главний".
2009.03.08 | Майстер
Володю, а ти забув
хто керував Секретаріатом Руху (і, думаю, самим Рухом), коли ти там працював?2009.03.08 | Мартинюк
Ні не забув , але стихія РУХу керувала ним більше аніж він РУХом
Як казав колись Милован Джилас : "Реальний перебіг подій є результатом непередбачуваної і химерної взаємодії народної стихії і управлінських сітей, які опускаються зверху в ту стихію партією".Під партією він мав на увазі колишню КПЮ - компартію Югославії.
2009.03.08 | yes
Тайняки не ініціюють процеси а намагаються взяти їх під контроль
2009.03.08 | Сергій Кабуд
процеси почалися з 1917 року коли патріоти взяли зброю
але не знали щодержавно-організована злочинність(більшовизм)
в якомусь сенсі підступніший і хитріший за самого чорта
2009.03.08 | Hadjibei
Стихія стихією
але рішення приймалися часто всупереч стихії.Я ту кухню бачив дуже добре в 1990-93 роках.
2009.03.08 | Сергій Кабуд
ця стихія привела до тотальної поразки
я вибачаюся але лузерство такого рівня як те що в Україні це запрєдєльна ганьнба для національно визвольного руху2009.03.08 | Сергій Кабуд
я маю велику підозру що і Уколов і Доній ну луценко ясно підар
2009.03.08 | Сергій Кабуд
а і так НІЧОГО не сталося
а в РФ сєогодні значно ЗНАЧНО гірше ніж коли я там був в останій раз у 88рі головне:
операція НЕП-2
посилила ворога до рівня на якому він не був ніколи
кремлюки сєогодні сільніші за всю історію свого терору
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Потім вже треба позбавлятися бачення хорошого життя в ракурсі лише дозволів чирікати чи виїзжати чи приймати участє в фарсі посткомуністичних виборів без Нюрнбергу і повішених білєшовиків:
це лохам щасття.
А кремлє чітко готує напад на США
рокіровка тіпа сил в східній європі з комуністичних на демократичні не білєш як облуда
2009.03.09 | Сергій Кабуд
Події в Чехословаччині кінця 80: Надія найбільший фальсифікатор
http://www.jrnyquist.com/operation_wedge.htmЩо ЦРУ залишив в смітнику?
Надія найбільший фальсифікатор - Бальтасар Gracian
Операція Історія
На 3 липня 1989 року на таємному засіданні чехословацького міністерства внутрішніх справ, що наказав:
набирати в кожному місці від 500 до 50 тис. чоловік [бажано з працівників рівні - тобто, тих комуністичних довідковий] подавати петиції ... та організувати 'опозиції' всередині незалежних груп ....
[Примітка редактора: Чеська нація ніколи не зможе піднятися проти комуністів по собі. Революції було майже неможливо для звичайних людей, щоб почати. Ці клопотання були зробити так Перебудова може початися в Чехословаччині. Звичайні люди, тоді не має інтересу або волі для початку будь-якого роду повстання проти комуністичного режиму. Вони навіть не здатні цього зараз, відповідно слабша система управління.]
07-24-1989
Ще одне таємне засідання, на FMI Чехословаччини:
1) Він розпорядився, щоб координація всіх операцій [про "оксамитової революції"] з п'ятого управління КДБ. [За словами Петра Cibulka ця дирекція відповідає за "дисидентів"].
2) він також розпорядився, щоб обрізання усіх комунікацій між "неконтрольованих" залишилися анти-комуністичної опозиції, і будь-якого стороннього особи чи організації.
Як КДБ перебіжчика предсказал
Колишній КДБ Основний Анатолій Golitysn писав у 1984 році, очікуючи перетворень у Східній Європі: "Якщо 'лібералізації' успішно та прийнято на Заході, як справжніх, цілком можливо, слід явним зняття однієї або декількох країн з Варшавського договору в якості моделі 'нейтрального' соціалістичної держави на всій території Європи стежити. Деякі 'дисидентів' вже говорити в цих умовах. "
Голіцин пізніше пояснив: "Це за допомогою гнучких маневрів, таких, як ці, що правлячої комуністичної партії, на відміну від пошкодження жорсткості їхнього виступу під час сталінського періоду, забезпечать міжнародного комуністичного руху з ... стратегічної підтримки ...."
Додаткові відзначає Ян Малина
За словами Петра Cibulka, правда дисидентів були замкнені на перевершив звинувачення [поліція не має підстав для арешту Петра в 1989 році], з тим, що Громадянський форум не буде мати проблеми в керівництво протягом перших днів "революції".
З-за цього, Хафель І компанії. не було проблемою на себе керівництво "Громадського форуму", а Петро та інші ніколи не всередині провідних колах.
Петро у своїй книзі описує, як він дозволив виступити тільки один раз на очах у людей. Це сталося в Празі, і з цього часу на Громадянський Форум керівництво не буде йому в будь-якому місці поруч з мікрофоном.
У своїй книзі "Є фотографії старих commie агентів навколо Петро. Ці агенти були робити вигляд, щоб бути друзями, але насправді вони не дозволяють віч-на Петра.
Читачам пропонується консультуватися Мирослав Dolejsi аналізу "оксамитової революції". Розглянемо деякі його пункти:
1. Існував незалежний студентський розслідування жорстокого поводження з боку поліції протягом 17 листопада 1989 демонстрації в Празі.
2. Хафель ніколи цього дослідження опубліковані в доповіді, і не зробив будь-хто інший.
3. Dolejsi вказує на те, що керівництво "Громадського форуму полягала в основному люди, які були прив'язані до" колишньої "комуністичним режимом, наприклад, Петро Pithart, чий батько колись Чехословацької комуністичної посол у Франції до 1968 року.
4. Також є кілька імен, в тому числі Клаус, Дінстбір, а також найбільш важливі точки всіх: Хафель нехай відомим комуністичним агентом і членом комуністичної партії, Calfa, щоб бути частиною Гавела Цивільного Форуму та його нового уряду.
5. Calfa згодом змушені покинути, але вона має важливе значення в те, що Гавел, нібито анти-комуністичної, не кажучи про це commie всередині уряду Гавел сам формування.
Operation History
On July 3rd 1989 there was a secret meeting at the Czechoslovak Ministry of Interior that ordered:
to recruit anywhere from 500 to 50 thousand people [preferably from the workers' level - i.e., those of communist background] to file petitions ... and to organize 'opposition' inside independent groups....
[Editor's note: The Czech nation could never rise up against the communists by itself. A revolution was next to impossible for ordinary people to start. These petitions had to be done so the Perestroika could begin in Czechoslovakia. Ordinary people back then had no interest or will to start any kind of revolt against the communist regime. They are not even capable of this now, under a looser system of control.]
07-24-1989
Another secret meeting at the FMI of Czechoslovakia:
1) It ordered the coordination of all operations [regarding the Velvet Revolution] with the Fifth Directorate of the KGB. [According to Petr Cibulka, this directorate was responsible for the "dissidents"].
2) It also ordered a cutoff of all communications between the "uncontrolled" remaining anti-communist opposition and any foreign entity or organization.
As a KGB defector predicted
Former KGB Major Anatoliy Golitysn wrote in 1984, anticipating the transformation of Eastern Europe: "If 'liberalization' is successful and accepted in the West as genuine, it may well be followed by the apparent withdrawal of one or more communist countries from the Warsaw Pact to serve as a model of a 'neutral' socialist state for the whole of Europe to follow. Some 'dissidents' are already speaking in these terms."
Golitsyn later explained, "It is through flexible maneuvers such as these that the ruling communist parties, in contrast with the damaging rigidities of their performances during the Stalinist period, will provide the international communist movement with ... strategic backing...."
Additional notes from Jan Malina
According to Petr Cibulka, true dissidents were locked up on trumped up charges [the police had no reason to arrest Petr in 1989] so that Civic Forum wouldn't have a problem in the leadership during the first days of the "revolution".
Because of this, Havel & Company. had no problem assuming the leadership of Civic Forum while Petr and others were never let inside the leading circles.
Petr in his book describes how he was allowed to speak only once in front of the people. This happened in Prague, and from that time on Civic Forum's leadership wouldn't let him anywhere near a microphone.
In his book there are pictures of old commie agents around Petr. These agents were pretending to be friends but in reality they were keeping an eye on Petr.
Readers are encouraged to consult Miroslav Dolejsi's analysis of the "Velvet Revolution." Consider a few of his points:
1. There was an independent student investigation of police brutality during the November 17th 1989 demonstrations in Prague.
2. Havel never published this investigation's report, and neither did anyone else.
3. Dolejsi points out that the leadership of Civic Forum consisted mainly in people who were tied to the "former" communist regime; for example, Petr Pithart whose father used to be Czechoslovak communist ambassador to France until 1968.
4. Also there are more names, including Klaus, Dienstbier and also the most significant point of all: Havel let a known communist agent and a member of the communist party, Calfa, to be part of Havel's Civic Forum and his new government.
5. Calfa was later forced out but it was significant back then that Havel, supposedly anti-communist, let this known commie inside the government Havel himself was forming.